What if Moe and Shounen got banned?

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I've noticed there is a currently growing hatred towards Shounen and Moe characters, so I wanted to hear from you what if Moe and Shounen got banned?
 
I'd rejoice. Okay, I'm exaggerating because then that wouldn't be good for diversity.

From what I can tell, they're both pretty popular so I don't think there's that much hatred for them.
 
Then all the complainers would ask that the next most popular set of shows got banned :)

People only hate shounen (in the chara battle) because it tends to cover all the popular series (I think moe is hated more because characters who can legitimately be described as moe rarely have any other notable features at all).

R
 
Yep, I'm thinking about the character battles =) but it's not the only place I've noticed people complaining about Moe and Shounen characters popularity... You can hear cosplayers commenting on that as well...
 
Its not that all shonen characters are annoying/should get banned. I mean, Its not like that many people would complain if Shinji Ikari won. Its mainly JUMP characters, end all.

Most people know my stance on moé, Although I've begun to have a disdain for all things big-eyed, I still don't mind them things as long as it provides something like a story which would keep me enticed, no matter the look of the show.

I've wondered, What if something utterly ridiculous like Lucky Star had character designs as something like Genshiken, would it pick up a respected, intelligent fan-base like Genshiken fans or still a bumbling load of omgroflcopters loli-luvurz, like now

Moe = Whatever, its a character design. I don't care if it stays or goes. Shonen stories, I like because they don't have much thought to them and you know character X will beat the living **** out of character Z no matter how long and how many battles/events may take place for that to happen.
 
If someone doesn't like a genre I think they should just shut up and watch what they like instead of trying to pick at things they don't like.
And with that philosophy - shounen and moe would have no reason to get banned.
 
melonpan said:
If someone doesn't like a genre I think they should just shut up and watch what they like instead of trying to pick at things they don't like.
And with that philosophy - shounen and moe would have no reason to get banned.
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whs

but to answer the question

shows like Death Note would not exist

as there would be nowhere near a big enough fan base to finance them.

Seriously though if it's going to start up this much of a commotion i think this year is going to be the last Character battle we do.
 
Jayme said:
I've wondered, What if something utterly ridiculous like Lucky Star had character designs as something like Genshiken, would it pick up a respected, intelligent fan-base like Genshiken fans or still a bumbling load of omgroflcopters loli-luvurz, like now.
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The people who like the dialogue and characters would still like it, and those who like it for loli character designs (even though I heard lolicons don't like L*S much anyway, but hey) wouldn't like it any more. Obviously.

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If they got banned? Well, it would suck, and suck hard. I mean, if they start banning certain harmless genres of cartoons just because a few people don't like them, the world is screwed.

Honestly, I think there's more visible dislike for them because they're easy to dislike. Both types of shows have little merit beyond what they try to acomplish, and also have a propensity to attract certain types of fans who can be obnoxious (e.g. narutards).

Personally I'm generally neutral towards shounen stuff (not usually interested, but then it's not as if I have to watch it), and moe stuff... well, I'm not sure. I sometimes find it hard to tell what constitutes a moe show or not. I mean, I'm pretty sure Gunslinger Girl would qualify and I rather liked that. And I've enjoyed all of the Key adaptations by KyoAni so far. But then there's stuff like Moetan, which was awful.

Also... don't worry about the character battles. The distinction between people voting for a character because they're relatively well-developed and thought out, and people voting for a character because they're cool, is one of those things which'll never go away. Voting either way is fine I guess, but it's not that surprising to see people irked when a "cool" character beats a "well-developed" one... or vice versa. Since for the most part the categories are mutually exclusive, which leaves little room to meet in the middle.
 
Ryo Chan said:
Seriously though if it's going to start up this much of a commotion i think this year is going to be the last Character battle we do.
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One topic? It's not getting out of hand or anything.

I'm still not really sure what Moé is exactly and it seems pretty hard to define but I see it as characters that are characters that are seemingly designed to appeal to a certain fanbase. That certain fanbase being that they like quiet, innocent looking, sometimes submissive characters but in the process the character doesnt stand out from the design. Or... something along those lines anyway...

I guess in the character battle the thought of these rather generic characters getting votes over characters with seemingly more depth or individuality feels like a cheat. Same goes with shonen characters in some ways.
 
Ryo Chan said:
Seriously though if it's going to start up this much of a commotion i think this year is going to be the last Character battle we do.
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I don't think it's really a problem at the moment.
If you're concerned it's simple enough to make a poll/thread asking if people actually want character tournaments to continue in the future, but I'm pretty sure people'll say yes.
 
Ryo Chan said:
Seriously though if it's going to start up this much of a commotion i think this year is going to be the last Character battle we do.
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I think this line would cause a bigger commotion... Seriously, most people does talk, say no to moe and etc, but only one actualy tried to flame things up (but that particular person tries to flame up everything ;D )
 
I'd say goodbye to 90% of anime and hello filtered awesome 10%.

Though some Shounen series deserve to survive, like YYH and One Piece.
 
Moe and Shounen tend to feature in a lot of anime as part of many other themes/ genre's, so I lot of decent stuff would be banned (I could say a show has Moe characters but isn't specifically moe).

To be honest I feel that in many cases using such terms to describe characters often sells them short, catagorising them as a cliche and ignoring other aspects of their personalities.
 
I'd be annoyed if they started going through anime and removing certain area's I mean they don't dot hat with other mediums, they don't go into Eastenders scripts and go.... hmmm incest storyline well better scrap that, someone is having there baby stolen, no that has to go, an affair whilst married that isn't right so that will have to go too. Ok so I am over simplifying but some MOE series are really good, Bamboo Blade is a brilliant little series and I'd hate to see things like that suffer because of a mass cull of the whole genre.
 
Still not going to be 90%.

I can't stand obvious moe stuff in general but don't mind if a show has other redeeming values or the moe is just in the eye of the beholder and not a focus. Shounen is good fun when it's done well and terrible when it's just aping other series - much like any other type of show.

R
 
Maxon said:
Calling 90% of anime shounen or moe is really pushing it.
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Yeah yeah, in other news, 80% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Rui said:
I can't stand obvious moe stuff in general but don't mind if a show has other redeeming values or the moe is just in the eye of the beholder and not a focus.
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I don't suppose you can give some examples of shows that would fit into the categories you outline here? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
 
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