The obligatory Mac/PC Discussion

Has to be PC, be awesome and go for Linux. Debian or Fedora distributions I would recommend. Before I hear compatibility issues on linux, you can run windows software, you can do music, image and video manipulation, you can do 3D object creation and rendering and you can play games.

Plus linux is free ;)
 
Asdrubael said:
Has to be PC, be awesome and go for Linux. Debian or Fedora distributions I would recommend. Before I hear compatibility issues on linux, you can run windows software, you can do music, image and video manipulation, you can do 3D object creation and rendering and you can play games.

Plus linux is free ;)

I'm tempted by Ubuntu.

What makes Debian or Fedora better?
 
Yeah try Ubuntu. Its very easy to install just answer a few questions and it will set-up. Very easy to use, the interface is similar looking to windows. You won't ever need to use the command terminal with Ubuntu because it has GUI tools for everything like windows. I think Ubuntu is the most popular for this reason.
 
Asdrubael said:
Yeah try Ubuntu. Its very easy to install just answer a few questions and it will set-up. Very easy to use, the interface is similar looking to windows. You won't ever need to use the command terminal with Ubuntu because it has GUI tools for everything like windows. I think Ubuntu is the most popular for this reason.

I'm assuming you're a relatively advanced user then when it comes to Linux hence using the other versions?

I heard Ubuntu 9.04 isn't very new-user friendly which poses a problem for me, being a new Ubuntu user.
 
What kind of environment do I need to set up for ubuntu? I mean, partition wise and file-system type. The numpties who built my PC just whacked Vista on a single partitioned hard-drive, but since I'm going to have to format for Windows 7 anyway (I got in on the £40 deal), what kind of preparation could I do for putting Ubuntu on there as well?
 
kupocake said:
What kind of environment do I need to set up for ubuntu? I mean, partition wise and file-system type. The numpties who built my PC just whacked Vista on a single partitioned hard-drive, but since I'm going to have to format for Windows 7 anyway (I got in on the £40 deal), what kind of preparation could I do for putting Ubuntu on there as well?

Just when you're formatting it again, when you set up the partitions make a 10gig one. Ubuntu can fit onto a 10gig partition nicely.
 
Zin5ki said:
Mutsumi said:
Don't get me started on the evils of Ipods....

Or Itunes, which I regard on a similar level to reusable tampons.
Make comparisons to flawed sanitary products no more! Sharepod is here.

Still wouldn't win me over. I don't believe in paying money for a file I could download in under ten seconds & for free elsewhere. I'm sticking with CDs.
 
Mutsumi said:
Zin5ki said:
Mutsumi said:
Don't get me started on the evils of Ipods....

Or Itunes, which I regard on a similar level to reusable tampons.
Make comparisons to flawed sanitary products no more! Sharepod is here.

Still wouldn't win me over. I don't believe in paying money for a file I could download in under ten seconds & for free elsewhere. I'm sticking with CDs.

Damn right.

I'd way rather the CD case with bonuses etc. than a JPEG or the album cover and some Mp3's.
 
Spyro201 said:
Mutsumi said:
Zin5ki said:
Mutsumi said:
Don't get me started on the evils of Ipods....

Or Itunes, which I regard on a similar level to reusable tampons.
Make comparisons to flawed sanitary products no more! Sharepod is here.

Still wouldn't win me over. I don't believe in paying money for a file I could download in under ten seconds & for free elsewhere. I'm sticking with CDs.

Damn right.

I'd way rather the CD case with bonuses etc. than a JPEG or the album cover and some Mp3's.

Exactly. I like to have a music collection I can touch. That way you actually own something that is real rather than paying to have a worthless digital copy, sometimes with rules of when you can & cannot use it if it has digital rights management stuff on it.

Quotemountain +1
 
Mutsumi said:
Exactly. I like to have a music collection I can touch. That way you actually own something that is real rather than paying to have a worthless digital copy, sometimes with rules of when you can & cannot use it if it has digital rights management stuff on it.

Quotemountain +1

Exactly. It pisses me the hell off. I'll never buy more than the odd one track off of iTunes. If that.
 
You cannot show someone a big folder full of music & feel proud, but you can show off a big shelf full of CDs. ^_^


(Nooo you broke the quotemountain. ;_; )
 
Mutsumi said:
You cannot show someone a big folder full of music & feel proud, but you can show off a big shelf full of CDs. ^_^


(Nooo you broke the quotemountain. ;_; )

Or in the case of Metallica, my 6 tee's! 8)
 
Mutsumi said:
You cannot show someone a big folder full of music & feel proud...
Oh, I beg to differ. I've seen threads (on other forums) where members were bragging about how many hundreds of gigabytes, or in a few cases terabytes, of MP3/FLACs they had. It's quite mad.

That said, I'm still a firm believer in physical media for music. I still buy CDs and vinyl so it's good to know I'll have a nice collection of music i'm proud of, and will listen to regularly, in the future. :)
 
I love physical CDs! I have hundreds (probably thousands, I don't actually know).

But I have gradually found myself using iTunes occasionally too. For example, there are some tracks which never make it to CD that I don't mind buying digitally to support the artists. It doesn't happen so much over here but in Japan digital-only singles are getting more common. Originally I used to buy things on iTunes to listen to and buy the CD later on if I loved them - now I don't always bother with that second step for songs I get tired of.

I also recently discovered some [good] Vocaloid composers have work on iTunes. Again, no physical CDs exist from these particular people so I was happy to be able to buy them somewhere and maybe encourage a physical release later.

For some reason a lot of people who know I use Macs but don't know what I like give me iTunes vouchers for gifts. So I end up with a lot of store credit and use it almost like a jukebox. If I love something though (and it's available) CD is definitely the way to go.

R
 
Rui said:
I love physical CDs! I have hundreds (probably thousands, I don't actually know).
Hmm... About time I counted mine again...

::goes to count::

I have 315 CDs. :D (don't worry, only nine of them are anime soundtracks)

I never thought I'd use iTunes much either but I've bought several albums mainly due to impatience. "I want to listen to that album now! I can't wait for it to be delivered!" etc...
 
Spyro201 said:
I'm assuming you're a relatively advanced user then when it comes to Linux hence using the other versions?

I heard Ubuntu 9.04 isn't very new-user friendly which poses a problem for me, being a new Ubuntu user.

I've never used Ubuntu so I can only say what I've heard and read about it. You can download from their site, burn it to a cd them boot the computer with the cd in the drive. It will ask you basic set up questions and will install. It should set up partitions automatically or if you want there may be an advanced section where you will be able to specify but that won't be necessary. It will reformat your hard disk.

The file system (ie folders like program files etc) will be completely different to windows but the look will be very similar. http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu


My first Linux was Gentoo but I would NOT recommend it unless you want to get to know how the kernel works on a coding level (like I did :p). Knowing c, c++ and shell scripting would be useful to be able to manage Gentoo well, its not easy to use.
 
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