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I don't like to gatekeep this Demi Phillips guy but he shouldn't be watching anime because its not for the easily offended.

For some reason I don't think he actually watched wicked city.Urusei Yatsura was created by women and this bull beeping crap.

Perfect Blue’s Brutality Crosses a Line for Modern Audiences​


I think he need stick to the telly tubbys
 
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I don't like to gatekeep this Demi Phillips guy but he shouldn't be watching anime because its not for the easily offended.

For some reason I don't think he actually watched wicked city.Urusei Yatsura was created by women and this bull beeping crap.

Perfect Blue’s Brutality Crosses a Line for Modern Audiences​


I think he need stick to the telly tubbys

Regarding Urusei Yatsura I more see your point (though Ataru is still pretty disgusting and I would kick him if he ever came near me because just the drooling (when he's horny) alone is one of my biggest OCD triggers) but most of these films are 18-rated horrors many of which include sexual violence that makes me, a seasoned anime fan who has watched a wide range of things, distinctly uncomfortable, they're not a couple of steps more grownup than the teletubbies they are mostly honestly pretty disturbingly violent, I mean, ya know, just saying, maybe this guy prefers to watch stuff that is somewhere inbetween these two extremes of "content designed specifically for very young children/toddlers" and "content beloved by disgusting men who want to rape and otherwise abuse women" (I am emphatically not arguing that those are the only people who would watch these things, but it is worth noting that they are popular with these groups because they have what they like in them in spades).

I think A Thousand and One Nights is interesting though dated yes in some ways (certainly kinder in it's outlook than many of the other films mentioned in the article), and Perfect Blue I think the assessment is somewhat unfair (though it is still undeniably brutal both in it's psychological treatment of Mima and in some of the things she dishes out to various unsavoury men in the film I mean a guy literally gets stabbed in the dick in one scene complete with graphic blood spurt), but most of these films do contain multiple scenes that would be upsetting to say the least to a lot of people, particularly to women and other people who've been victims of sexual violence, and just being like "lol so easily offended" is a really lazy argument.

I'd also note that something being created by a woman does not automatically mean it's completely ok, like I have a lot of respect for Rumiko Takahashi and Ataru is clearly meant to be somewhat of a creepy d-bag so I think the reviewer missed the point somewhat regarding that one, but yeah women can and do write things that make excuses for/romanticise abuse sometimes, like I'm not gonna argue that it doesn't change the context of some things if you know it was written by a woman rather than a man but it's not an automatic get out of scrutiny free card. And before someone brings up censorship you will note I didn't argue in favour of that, but goddamnit Kawajiri this is why I won't rewatch anything by you apart from Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust and Cyber City Oedo 808.

EDIT: I hate to have to point this out but there are loads of anime out there without (graphic sexualised) rape scenes in them!
 
I wouldn't psychoanalyze people based on what they watch, that is a dangerous path tread on far too often. But that article is some fine rage bait really meant only to get clicks, you just need to stop and think how the guy would have had to go out of his way to make that list. So I agree with Anime1977's take that this is just some twitter nonsense as I always call it.
 
I wouldn't psychoanalyze people based on what they watch, that is a dangerous path tread on far too often. But that article is some fine rage bait really meant only to get clicks, you just need to stop and think how the guy would have had to go out of his way to make that list. So I agree with Anime1977's take that this is just some twitter nonsense as I always call it.

I'd agree with you that you shouldn't assume someone is a bad person based purely on what they watch but that's not the argument I was making, I was rather saying that laughing at people for finding sexual violence in films upsetting/disturbing/distasteful is a bit like getting surprised Pikachu face over it "Wait... you're saying there are lots of people who think eroticising rape is gross and questionable?" Like I'm not arguing everyone who watches these things is watching them for that reason, I'm not even arguing that everyone who has what I'll vaguely refer to for the sake of diplomacy and sensitivity as "politically incorrect desires or fantasies" is a bad person, I'm just saying that there's a whole world of anime out there that is neither Pingu in the Big City or filled with rape scenes and it's a bit weird that we're acting almost like there isn't, I'd also add that that poster has repeatedly defended powerful men who are accused of rape and abuse and refused to listen to, believe or show compassion for their victims (pretty sure they also claimed I hadn't been abused in that way after I clearly stated that I had in a discussion on that topic on this forum), and my patience is short this evening. (I do agree that the guy who wrote this article is like... IDK what the word is but I get what you mean about clickbait, but he's still right that most of these anime are pretty full of sexual violence).
 
I'd agree with you that you shouldn't assume someone is a bad person based purely on what they watch but that's not the argument I was making, I was rather saying that laughing at people for finding sexual violence in films upsetting/disturbing/distasteful is a bit like getting surprised Pikachu face over it "Wait... you're saying there are lots of people who think eroticising rape is gross and questionable?" Like I'm not arguing everyone who watches these things is watching them for that reason, I'm not even arguing that everyone who has what I'll vaguely refer to for the sake of diplomacy and sensitivity as "politically incorrect desires or fantasies" is a bad person, I'm just saying that there's a whole world of anime out there that is neither Pingu in the Big City or filled with rape scenes and it's a bit weird that we're acting almost like there isn't, I'd also add that that poster has repeatedly defended powerful men who are accused of rape and abuse and refused to listen to, believe or show compassion for their victims (pretty sure they also claimed I hadn't been abused in that way after I clearly stated that I had in a discussion on that topic on this forum), and my patience is short this evening. (I do agree that the guy who wrote this article is like... IDK what the word is but I get what you mean about clickbait, but he's still right that most of these anime are pretty full of sexual violence).
I don't think anyone is arguing against that. It pretty much goes without saying that other shows exist, I am sure we all have our favorites on our shelves we re-watch and recommend to others. And of course there are who folk will get upset over the more sensitive topics like sexual assault. None of that is invalid and people are allowed to avoid that stuff like the plague if they so choose.

All I'm saying is, lists like this that put a spotlight on these shows just to say "look at this filth, if you watch this I am now judging you" are made in bad faith.

EDIT: As an aside I re-watch Monogatari frequently but I am very certain that would end up on this list if the author knew about it lol.
 
I'd agree with you that you shouldn't assume someone is a bad person based purely on what they watch but that's not the argument I was making, I was rather saying that laughing at people for finding sexual violence in films upsetting/disturbing/distasteful is a bit like getting surprised Pikachu face over it "Wait... you're saying there are lots of people who think eroticising rape is gross and questionable?" Like I'm not arguing everyone who watches these things is watching them for that reason, I'm not even arguing that everyone who has what I'll vaguely refer to for the sake of diplomacy and sensitivity as "politically incorrect desires or fantasies" is a bad person, I'm just saying that there's a whole world of anime out there that is neither Pingu in the Big City or filled with rape scenes and it's a bit weird that we're acting almost like there isn't, I'd also add that that poster has repeatedly defended powerful men who are accused of rape and abuse and refused to listen to, believe or show compassion for their victims (pretty sure they also claimed I hadn't been abused in that way after I clearly stated that I had in a discussion on that topic on this forum), and my patience is short this evening. (I do agree that the guy who wrote this article is like... IDK what the word is but I get what you mean about clickbait, but he's still right that most of these anime are pretty full of sexual violence).
I never said i didn't believe you were sa at all😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

Oh im sorry for believeing in innocent to proven guilty.dont lie about something in never said.

You don't know me but you can't leave to alone you are judging me ive never hurt anyone in my life i was used a punching bag in school oh and one of my uncles inappropriately touched me.im not going sit here be accused of something i never said.

Where are mods this bs is not ok and I guess im going to accused of posting in bad faith again.

I just found it funny that someone who claims to be a long time anime watcher that I doubt he is decides to pick titles that have disturbing content and then does a right up complaining about how icky they are instead I get crap for it.

It pissing me of mods.
 
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I think it's probably healthy for all of us to change the subject at this point. Having reread all of the posts I think the key points are that the original article was bait (and successful in that respect even when removed from its origin), that some topics are upsetting for victims regardless of context, and that everyone has very different tastes/boundaries. I also note that RadFemHedonist explicitly said that she doesn't think that all people who watch/like/advocate for extreme content are bad people themselves.

My view is that nobody here has done anything which requires moderation. Posting a flame bait article in the first place was always going to be a bit risky on a site where we have a lot of diverse opinions and a lot of genuine passion. If you post something here on a public forum then you're inviting commentary from the entire membership; you don't get to choose who reacts to it (though there's an option to ignore posters you don't like if you view their profile). I understand why RadFemHedonist feels dismissed after some of the previous discussions that I've moderated after they became heated and personal. And I also understand why Anime1977 felt upset to learn that RadFemHedonist was still upset about remarks in previous debates. Nobody is having a good time right now.

If anyone wants to continue the core debate, which has some genuinely interesting elements, I think it might be best done in a dedicated topic (so that people know they're going into a difficult subject from the outset instead of into a chill chat thread) and with a top post which lays out some ground rules for the discussion so that nothing gets too heated. I have opinions on the subject myself (and I laughed at the Monogatari jab - I'm also a fan) but I'm going to take my own advice and let this particular thread cool off.

R
 
I never said i didn't believe you were sa at all😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

Oh im sorry for believeing in innocent to proven guilty.dont lie about something in never said.

You don't know me but you can't leave to alone you are judging me ive never hurt anyone in my life i was used a punching bag in school oh and one of my uncles inappropriately touched me.im not going sit here be accused of something i never said.

Where are mods this bs is not ok and I guess im going to accused of posting in bad faith again.

I just found it funny that someone who claims to be a long time anime watcher that I doubt he is decides to pick titles that have disturbing content and then does a right up complaining about how icky they are instead I get crap for it.

It pissing me of mods.

I am sorry for misunderstanding you regarding believing me about that in a previous post. And I am also sorry that those things were done to you, cuz that's effed and you shouldn't ever have had to go through that :(
 
I think it's probably healthy for all of us to change the subject at this point. Having reread all of the posts I think the key points are that the original article was bait (and successful in that respect even when removed from its origin), that some topics are upsetting for victims regardless of context, and that everyone has very different tastes/boundaries. I also note that RadFemHedonist explicitly said that she doesn't think that all people who watch/like/advocate for extreme content are bad people themselves.

My view is that nobody here has done anything which requires moderation. Posting a flame bait article in the first place was always going to be a bit risky on a site where we have a lot of diverse opinions and a lot of genuine passion. If you post something here on a public forum then you're inviting commentary from the entire membership; you don't get to choose who reacts to it (though there's an option to ignore posters you don't like if you view their profile). I understand why RadFemHedonist feels dismissed after some of the previous discussions that I've moderated after they became heated and personal. And I also understand why Anime1977 felt upset to learn that RadFemHedonist was still upset about remarks in previous debates. Nobody is having a good time right now.

If anyone wants to continue the core debate, which has some genuinely interesting elements, I think it might be best done in a dedicated topic (so that people know they're going into a difficult subject from the outset instead of into a chill chat thread) and with a top post which lays out some ground rules for the discussion so that nothing gets too heated. I have opinions on the subject myself (and I laughed at the Monogatari jab - I'm also a fan) but I'm going to take my own advice and let this particular thread cool off.

R
Midori: Shoujo Tsubaki is mentioned not Monogatari i could not see any mention of that series. one could put you on a list the other unlikely.
 
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Midori: Shoujo Tsubaki is mentioned not Monogatari i could not see any mention of that series. one could put you on a list the other unlikely.

Monogatari came up earlier in this discussion thread, though, and it's a good example of a show with a lot of questionable material even though it doesn't come up in many lists.

R
 
I looked at that 10 classic anime movies thing and all I have to say is bs-especially on Urusei Yatsura....! To expand on that a bit-I really don't like overly violent anime because there's enough of that in real every day life and rape and other forms of sexual violence are to be condemned but in a show like Urusei Yatsura or Ranma 1/2 it can be some what over looked as it's done for comedy.
 
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I watched project a-ko to day it's fun anime but what I don't get is why did the bbfc give it 15 i don't see anything that justify a high rating for an anime that has no blood or gore or strong language it's a 12 tops.
 
I watched project a-ko to day it's fun anime but what I don't get is why did the bbfc give it 15 i don't see anything that justify a high rating for an anime that has no blood or gore or strong language it's a 12 tops.
If it was a 12, it would encourage children to smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol. Perhaps to excess.

Maybe. 👻
 
Well that's Disney+ cancelled for the time being, as I didn't feel it worthwhile paying £9,99 a month for what I got out of it. The last couple series of anime I had on my watch-list will simply go unwatched.

Might sign up for Crunchyroll, only for the ability to download anime to my tablet to watch when on long train journeys in darkness.
 
The reason streaming became so popular was cable was rapidly becoming unpopular due to ever increasing prices (here's looking at you Comcast) and now with multiple competing streamers and ever increasing subscription prices it's the same thing all over again. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot......!
 
I don't subscribe to Crunchyroll or any other streaming service, and I buy everything I want that gets released on disc. Unfortunately Crunchyroll is skipping blu-ray releases for seemingly an increasing number of titles. After this much time has passed, I doubt they're ever releasing Raven of the Inner Palace or Tsukimichi, to name just two I really want but can't buy.
 
I don't subscribe to Crunchyroll or any other streaming service, and I buy everything I want that gets released on disc. Unfortunately Crunchyroll is skipping blu-ray releases for seemingly an increasing number of titles. After this much time has passed, I doubt they're ever releasing Raven of the Inner Palace or Tsukimichi, to name just two I really want but can't buy.
You could get this release of Tsukimichi here (removed). It says english subtitles and for Raven Of The Inner Palace you could get the jpbd release and add readily available subtitles but that might be a little bit expensive....!
 
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People getting annoyed with Crunchyroll as they keep removing titles. What they removed of late I already own on Blu Ray. Harsh reminder for some that streaming is just a discless rental service not ownership.
I guess it's more due to licence agreements ending and the powers that be within CR have determined renewal isn't good value for money.
 
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