Paradox295
Pokémon Master
http://www.uk-anime.net/newsitem/Ayacon ... eport.html
So, we might have the Trigun movie. And uhhh. Not much else interesting.
So, we might have the Trigun movie. And uhhh. Not much else interesting.
Stuff happened at Ayacon!
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As I can't stand Trigun, I'll focus on the rest. Andrew is really becoming the face of anime in the UK these days (even if he claims that the Manga UK Andrew isn't actually him)!
Always sad to hear again how old Beez stuff is essentially completely out of print (though I have everything I want personally).
Re: Tiger & Bunny, Kuragehime and Samurai Girls, I will buy all of these on DVD in the UK but not on blu-ray, as I want to have them all but am boycotting region B locked discs. I have held off the R1 of Samurai Girls and T&B I will double dip for just because I can. If Kaze can somehow get region free blu-rays going against all of Manga UK's claims, I will pick up the blu versions in a heartbeat. For Kuragehime in particular though I cannot imagine a blu-ray version here makes any sense at all for recouping potential costs.
Poor Nabari No Ou, though I think that releasing stuff so long after the US with no added value whatsoever is probably not a great idea, especially when its market in the US mostly seemed to be crazy fangirls. I preordered the first US release myself so already had it before Manga announced it ^^;
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Always sad to hear again how old Beez stuff is essentially completely out of print (though I have everything I want personally).
Re: Tiger & Bunny, Kuragehime and Samurai Girls, I will buy all of these on DVD in the UK but not on blu-ray, as I want to have them all but am boycotting region B locked discs. I have held off the R1 of Samurai Girls and T&B I will double dip for just because I can. If Kaze can somehow get region free blu-rays going against all of Manga UK's claims, I will pick up the blu versions in a heartbeat. For Kuragehime in particular though I cannot imagine a blu-ray version here makes any sense at all for recouping potential costs.
Poor Nabari No Ou, though I think that releasing stuff so long after the US with no added value whatsoever is probably not a great idea, especially when its market in the US mostly seemed to be crazy fangirls. I preordered the first US release myself so already had it before Manga announced it ^^;
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fabio de lunatico
Claymore
Less than 100 copies? Nabari no Uh Ou! Sorry.
Where do those figures come from though? According to the article Manga had no presence there and I don't remember them lamenting the sales on Twatter. Also, that article makes no distinction between the DVD and Blu-ray sales for Xam'd.
Where do those figures come from though? According to the article Manga had no presence there and I don't remember them lamenting the sales on Twatter. Also, that article makes no distinction between the DVD and Blu-ray sales for Xam'd.
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I think a lot of things flop which Jerome doesn't necessarily scream about - Sengoku Basara isn't getting a season 2 release here at all according to Manga following sales of season 1, only nobody seems to care 
Perhaps they had high expectations for Nabari no Ou since it's about ninja and Naruto is also about ninja, but I don't know that it even did that well in the US.
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Perhaps they had high expectations for Nabari no Ou since it's about ninja and Naruto is also about ninja, but I don't know that it even did that well in the US.
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Shiroi Hane
Dragon Knight
Andrew was representing Manga (since in his job at Kaze he works with Manga as a distributor) and he was presumably briefed.
BTW Paradox, did you forget about Mardock Scramble or are you just not interested?
Oh, and I've heard about the dire performance of Red Garden before. I was certainly never interested in it.
BTW Paradox, did you forget about Mardock Scramble or are you just not interested?
Oh, and I've heard about the dire performance of Red Garden before. I was certainly never interested in it.
Sparrowsabre7
Za Warudo
Trigun is good enough for me! But I still had never heard of Kaze until Andrew said he was moving to them. What have they released over here?
Shiroi Hane
Dragon Knight
Kaze merged with Viz Media Europe a couple of years ago, they are huge in France and (e.g. they were releasing Kara no Kyoukai on DVD long before the US got their imported BDs and kept on streaming Fractale in HD - 1080p even - while the US streams were taken down). IIRC their first release here as Kaze (rather than VME) was Professor Layton - they don't release directly but distribute via Manga so they are less visible. Currently all the titles streaming on AoD are Kaze licenses.
Also taken under the Kaze wing was Germany company Anime Virtual and again, they had Kara no Kyoukai up for streaming/DTO on the German version of AoD before it went up on PSN in the US.
Also taken under the Kaze wing was Germany company Anime Virtual and again, they had Kara no Kyoukai up for streaming/DTO on the German version of AoD before it went up on PSN in the US.
butch-cassidy
Straw Hat Pirate
fabricatedlunatic said:
Manga mentioned it on their twitter a few weeks ago when they announced that they were dropping the second volume blu ray.
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ConanThe3rd
Railgun
I don't like that "if" floating around Tiger and Bunny's Blu Ray status. It's a dirty if and it needs cleaned now.
Thing is, I'd go for what Andrew is saying, get the damn thing out in DVD and then boxset the whole thing for Blu Ray. If anything it gets around the "Will they, won't they" of the whole mess. I'm sure if you could get the whole deal for the price of three blu ray volumes (what, £60?) then a lot of people would go for it.
Thing is, I'd go for what Andrew is saying, get the damn thing out in DVD and then boxset the whole thing for Blu Ray. If anything it gets around the "Will they, won't they" of the whole mess. I'm sure if you could get the whole deal for the price of three blu ray volumes (what, £60?) then a lot of people would go for it.
But would 1500+ people go for it at full price (assuming a DVD version is available too)? Not saying they wouldn't, just curious
I wouldn't because I don't like being in region B, of course, but it would be interesting to see how many people would. It would be interesting if things worked very differently and people could preorder before the company commits so they could see the strength of the market.
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I wouldn't because I don't like being in region B, of course, but it would be interesting to see how many people would. It would be interesting if things worked very differently and people could preorder before the company commits so they could see the strength of the market.
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fabio de lunatico
Claymore
Beez/Kaze should seriously think about doing BD/DVD double packs, à la Funimation. It'll push the price of their releases up but they cater more to the hardcore fan than Manga do anyway (with the exception of their Anime Legends line of course).
Yeah, I know about Xam'd. I was talking about Nabari. Sorry for not being very clear.butch-cassidy said:
Ah, okay. That makes sense.Shiroi Hane said:
ayase
State Alchemist
Yes, a million times yes. Despite Beez now following the exact releasing method I recommended in the Beez thread a couple of years ago ::cough:: the advent of Blu-ray has meant I've found it hard to support releases like Geass and Gundam 00. They're big shows and already have a BD release in Japan, so I would really rather have them on BD rather than DVD (I did buy Durarara and Gurren Lagann on DVD though, so I'm not the walking downfall of the UK anime industry).fabricatedlunatic said:
If you must do double-packs, just make sure you put them in BD sized cases and we'll be good to go.
ayase said:
Allegedly this causes problems in retail with the anime being stored in the A-Z blu-ray jumble instead of in the proper section, so nobody can find it without leafing through millions of horrible Hollywood movies. For some reason it's unthinkable for shopkeepers to mix the sizes of their items up and cause customer confusion, so the US uses DVD cases to masquerade as a normal DVD release.
Having said that, I haven't seen a Beez release in a physical shop in ages (though this is Kaze and likely to be Manga).
I personally don't care as I love anime, rather than cases, and my shelves take both.
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ayase said:
Hahaha
I think NISA's excessively long boxes finally broke my spirit when it came to caring what my shelves look like. They don't even have the title on the spine for when I stuff them on top of rows of cases ;_;
Are they aimed at people with DVD shelves several feet deep? I always wonder.
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Paradox295
Pokémon Master
Rui said:
lol that news is mostly terrible for us. The if it's licensed for the USA and not by FUNi we don't get it is not a good thing at all. Esp with more big titles going to Aniplex USA, NISA and Sentai.
Nor is not reprinting all that lost Beez stock, as some of theirs is hard to come by as it is.
BD here looks dead, unless they start printing for multiple countries they can't make the minimums with the market as hurt as it is.
Much as with games in the early 2000's parallel import will hurt you significantly. That was resolved through near simultaneous relases or competing on product value, raising quality (more extras) not lowering price. It seems you can't do either easily(or don't want to risk it) death of highstreet shops can't help either. The bigger online shops list US imports alongside your products after all.
Nor is not reprinting all that lost Beez stock, as some of theirs is hard to come by as it is.
BD here looks dead, unless they start printing for multiple countries they can't make the minimums with the market as hurt as it is.
Much as with games in the early 2000's parallel import will hurt you significantly. That was resolved through near simultaneous relases or competing on product value, raising quality (more extras) not lowering price. It seems you can't do either easily(or don't want to risk it) death of highstreet shops can't help either. The bigger online shops list US imports alongside your products after all.