Romantic anime - comparisons with real-life romance

Animefreak17

Animefreak17

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st_owly said:
Then why are you watching it if it's the kind of story you hate? Why not watch something you enjoy?
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Because I brought it on a blind buy and I didn't know what it was about and this has worked against me a few times in the past blind buys I mean.....like peach girl and .......another one which will be unnamed .......... I have a track record of not dropping a anime and finishing them to the end......I also like to judge a anime after I fully complete it cause I know there's people out there who have started a series and dropped it after a few episodes and after years later going back to that series, watching again and regretting not finishing it cause of how good it was, I know this will be something I'll hate but iv already got the DVD and like a dedicated fan I must watch it and give it a chance.

I mean I peach girl there was a few funny moments and there was some moments I hate like the girl dumping the one guy who loved her the most swapping him for the guy who thought of her as a second choice, and this is what really gets me angry about these sort of anime the main lead doesn't go for girl or guy who loves him or her the most and like an idiot the main lead doesn't see the other person's feelings for him.

There's a few anime that I'm dreading of watching too but I must watch them,

There's series that I'm hesitating to start and that's hell girl cause of how dark it is but at the same time I want to watch because it's dark and something I haven't seen before...........And that's why I want to finish something then judge it.

With suzuka it's the same sort of series we see all the time in romance

The main male leads a idiot
The same stereotypes of girls we see in other anime
We all know who is going to end up with who.
The childhood friend doesn't stand a chance
And it's always the same girl who we see from the start of the series.

But I have to see it though to the end so I won't have any regrets,

Sure i have anime that's on hold but that's only because they didn't put the rest of the episodes on the DVD or I have on DVD but waiting to get the whole series.

Get it
 
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You're not some kind of "lesser" fan if you drop or don't start a series because you don't like them. I've dropped or not started plenty of things because I didn't like them/they didn't appeal in the first place. I have gone back to things later if they've got lots of praise from people who share similar tastes to me. I prefer quality over quantity, and I'd rather not waste my time watching something I don't like, but if you want to, that's obviously your choice.. There's that much anime out there, and more is always being made, that I think I'll always find something new to enjoy. And if I don't, well then I'll just stop watching.

PS. There's this magic thing called the Internet that lets you look up plot summaries of shows before you buy them...
 
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st_owly said:
You're not some kind of "lesser" fan if you drop or don't start a series because you don't like them. I've dropped or not started plenty of things because I didn't like them/they didn't appeal in the first place. I have gone back to things later if they've got lots of praise from people who share similar tastes to me. I prefer quality over quantity, and I'd rather not waste my time watching something I don't like, but if you want to, that's obviously your choice.. There's that much anime out there, and more is always being made, that I think I'll always find something new to enjoy. And if I don't, well then I'll just stop watching.

PS. There's this magic thing called the Internet that lets you look up plot summaries of shows before you buy them...
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Yeah but when I do do a blind buy and its something really good I'm happy about cause I like to be surprised when I watch a anime without knowing what it's about.

I know it won't make me a lesser fan if I drop a anime but like I said I like to finish what I started cause I don't like to be half assed.

It's like the key 3 before I watched them I heard they was sad anime and I wasn't looking forward to watching them.......but after I finished them they became my favourite animes of all time......which is why I like to finish what I started and give series a chance cause like the key the it surprised me I thought I was getting something iv seen before but OMG they was the best series iv ever seen....Yes they have there flaws in some areas but I still enjoyed them very much............ the moral of the story is don't judge til you finish it to the end.......who knows suzuka might get me in to it despite its characters


And I agree I prefer quality over quantity ..........with anime cause I know exactly what you mean.... I watched inuyasha awhile back and finished it and ...........-_- nothing epic happens it was about the journey more then anything it was the same stuff over and over so I get it......but I'd rather have both of them quality and quantity......like one piece ................

Maybe it's the other reason why I don't like romance anime..........if never been in a relationship before maybe it's jealously or maybe it's not exactly what real relationships are really like ..... I don't know ........these sort of anime are mostly for girls .......not all but mostly for girls................
 
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But there's a difference between watching something you didn't think you'd like but ended up liking it and watching something, hating every second of it and wishing it was over BUT still completing it.

If the case is the latter then stop and watch something else. You're just watching something for the sake of it....
 
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Some interesting points about romance here!

I think there's a big difference between a romantic drama aimed at girls and a harem romance aimed at guys - if anything I think the latter is more common - though I can see why someone who hates all romance would dislike both. I find it interesting that AF17 dislikes it when the girl chooses someone who doesn't seem to love her as much because I'd legitimately never thought of it that way. When a girl picks a guy in a romance show I only think of the emotions the characters are feeling instead of weighing up the 'worthiness' of the losers in the love triangle. If anything, having had real life experience of relationships only makes this stronger, since I have actually had real people complain about me picking someone else when they were more worthy and loved me more ^^;; eww.

Anyway, yeah, I have to agree with the people suggesting you drop a series you aren't enjoying. Life is too short to waste it on Suzuka.

R
 
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GolGotha

You might have a point but the problem is now if gotten in to it now and seeing it from a point of few.......the main characters an idiot and I'm grateful that the other girls who likes him doesn't end up with him because he's an idiot so it's all good.

Rui

Yeah but in peach girl
she chooses the guy who has her as a second choice while the other guy hurts him selfs and her to keep her safe and he's thoughtful too hell he loved her sooo much that he let her go, while the other guy tackled the guy she chosen to get her to choose him, even tho she finds out that the other guy hurt her to keep her safe she still goes for the other guy which really made me hate her for her choice
it's like that the girls in anime make the stupid choices and the boys are idiots for not noticing the other girls feelings and ends up hurting them, and it also really gets me angry when the guy dumps the childhood friend who knows him in and out and visa versa ......I see this in most anime and its like 10% chance the childhood friend ends up with him.......

Why do girls make stupid choices when it comes to men.........don't get me wrong I don't think all girls are dummies far from it but if seen in really life that women have made the wrong choices of men and are unhappy with what they got or they just bear with it.......

Like when a man hits her and makes excuses for him
Or
He's a lazy good for nothing and she does all the work

You get what I'm saying,

And yes it's the same for boys but it's mostly girls who end up with a asshole .........while there's good men out there they end up picking the lowlife and trust me I know someone who is in that sort of relationship
 
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Rui said:
If anything, having had real life experience of relationships only makes this stronger, since I have actually had real people complain about me picking someone else when they were more worthy and loved me more ^^;; eww.
R
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Seriously?! I thought that kind of thing only happened in shojo manga? :lol:

@AF - You obviously have no understanding of domestic abuse if you're asking why girls go back to guys who hit them. I'm not meaning that as a criticism of you, but logic often flies out of the window in such a situation. Believe me, I know.
 
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st_owly:

Seriously :(

AF17:

But why do you get to decide who the 'best' match for a girl is? Surely that's something every girl (and boy) decides themselves. If you want to be in control then playing a game with different branches is going to be more satisfying than watching an anime where there's a fixed storyline.

The thing about saying that one guy is more deserving because he loves the girl more is that you are - unintentionally - treating the girl as an object, not a person. She has no obligation to go out with someone she doesn't fancy just because he claims to love her more, even if he does self-sacrificing things to help her. It's true that real-life girls (and boys) can make bad decisions and have unhealthy relationships, but I think it's also true that most people looking in on a relationship tend to make judgements without really understanding anything that's going on. And their opinions tend to be blurred by jealousy, especially if they relate to the 'heroic' character who lost out in the love triangle rather than to the female lead.

R
 
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st_owly said:
Rui said:
If anything, having had real life experience of relationships only makes this stronger, since I have actually had real people complain about me picking someone else when they were more worthy and loved me more ^^;; eww.
R
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Seriously?! I thought that kind of thing only happened in shojo manga? :lol:

@AF - You obviously have no understanding of domestic abuse if you're asking why girls go back to guys who hit them. I'm not meaning that as a criticism of you, but logic often flies out of the window in such a situation. Believe me, I know.
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I'm not saying your wrong but there is some women out there who does this they just take it, trust me I know
 
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Agree 100%, Rui. You can't quantify love, anyway. I've been in a relationship where the guy's definition of loving me more than my ex did was emotionally blackmailing me and stopping me seeing my friends...
 
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@AF:

When you're in that situation, you begin to feel that everything they say about you is true. Constantly replaying questions in your head, such as

'What if he's right...what if I am worthless?'

and you end up trying to please them, not out of fear that if you do it'll stop, but to make them happy as you feel that you're the one in the wrong and you must make it up to them.

People in those situations, don't just 'sit there and take it' for the fun of it.
 
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Rui said:
st_owly:

Seriously :(

AF17:

But why do you get to decide who the 'best' match for a girl is? Surely that's something every girl (and boy) decides themselves. If you want to be in control then playing a game with different branches is going to be more satisfying than watching an anime where there's a fixed storyline.

The thing about saying that one guy is more deserving because he loves the girl more is that you are - unintentionally - treating the girl as an object, not a person. She has no obligation to go out with someone she doesn't fancy just because he claims to love her more, even if he does self-sacrificing things to help her. It's true that real-life girls (and boys) can make bad decisions and have unhealthy relationships, but I think it's also true that most people looking in on a relationship tend to make judgements without really understanding anything that's going on. And their opinions tend to be blurred by jealousy, especially if they relate to the 'heroic' character who lost out in the love triangle rather than to the female lead.

R
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I'm yeah I get that but sometimes it doesn't work out on both ends

When someone decides for them but ends up unhappy
Or
They make there own decisions but ends up unhappy
Or
Visa versa on both

Yeah but I stopped playing games I'm not in to them as much as I used to cause it's manly shooters...........If I was to play something I'd like a game like where you create something an you have to battle other players now that be something to play........or maybe an unreal tournament 4

I wouldn't dream of saying a girl's an object I'm not like that, but the thing is that the girl and boy ether make the choices that hurts other people and don't see it from the other person's view they tend to blur that out and just see what they want, like example

Let's say a girl who likes this boy hangs out with him and does loads of things for him and she hints she likes him but he ether doesn't see it or ignores it and she and he knows each other very well and she goes out of her way to help him at every turn but ends up going out with another girl and she's heart broken and later he finds out she loves him and he's hurt her. What's he to do? Does she keep trying, does she let him go, does she wait til he dumps her or she leaves him.

Cause of seen this in loads of anime

If it was me I'd stay with the childhood friend because ..........simply because .....who knows me better then the one who grew up with me and looked out me.............but in anime it's like they try to avoid the childhood friends getting together like it's bad luck or something.
 
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st_owly

........... :evil: he did WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!..............right where's my axe ......Oh an what's he's address? Ok that's one of the few things I hate when it come to men doing those sort of things.......I hope you kicked him in the balls.

GolGotha

I haven't been in a relationship but when it comes to men taking advantage of women and hurting them.......i just loose it, I hate how men treat women like

Using them
Blackmailing them...........in hentai it's ok :wink:
Hitting them

I know someone who was with this guy and he hit her all the time and I get sooooooo angry
 
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animefreak17 said:
Let's say a girl who likes this boy hangs out with him and does loads of things for him and she hints she likes him but he ether doesn't see it or ignores it and she and he knows each other very well and she goes out of her way to help him at every turn but ends up going out with another girl and she's heart broken and later he finds out she loves him and he's hurt her. What's he to do? Does she keep trying, does she let him go, does she wait til he dumps her or she leaves him.
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He doesn't have to do anything. That's life. I've liked many people before, who I believed liked me back, but have gone on to date other people. I wouldn't want them to go out with me because they pitted me/felt bad about making me upset. She should move on and he should focus on his girlfriend....but I don't think that would have the same appeal if it was an anime. I imagine people would get bored watching it.

I wouldn't go out with a childhood friend simply because I consider them family.

Oh and Rui was talking about 'Dating Games'.
 
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GolGotha said:
animefreak17 said:
Let's say a girl who likes this boy hangs out with him and does loads of things for him and she hints she likes him but he ether doesn't see it or ignores it and she and he knows each other very well and she goes out of her way to help him at every turn but ends up going out with another girl and she's heart broken and later he finds out she loves him and he's hurt her. What's he to do? Does she keep trying, does she let him go, does she wait til he dumps her or she leaves him.
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He doesn't have to do anything. That's life. I've liked many people before, who I believed liked me back, but have gone on to date other people. I wouldn't want them to go out with me because they pitted me/felt bad about making me upset. She should move on and he should focus on his girlfriend....but I don't think that would have the same appeal if it was an anime. I imagine people would get bored watching it.

I wouldn't go out with a childhood friend simply because I consider them family.

Oh and Rui was talking about 'Dating Games'.
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Oh was she .......Sorry

But what about what the childhood wants what if she says she's in love with you and would do anything for you and she doesn't see you as family but as someone she's in love with.

It's probably me iv never been with anyone because I'm just no good with anyone......or I'm just anti social and such.

We're.derailing this thread......Rui just put this in my thread please sorry for derailing it
 
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From his perspective though, st_owly's control freak probably thought that he was being caring and protective. It just manifested as domineering emotional abuse. These guys (and girls) who act in a bad way don't usually realise that they're doing it - they think they're being loving and can't see how it comes across to everyone else. Conversely sometimes a relationship can look terrible from the outside but be warm and loving within; it's popular for people to crack jokes about how the 'other half' holds them back or dictates the rules, but people who say those things aren't always in an an abusive situation. The only two people who understand any given romantic relationship are the ones who are in it.

For the example:

Let's say a girl who likes this boy hangs out with him and does loads of things for him and she hints she likes him but he ether doesn't see it or ignores it and she and he knows each other very well and she goes out of her way to help him at every turn but ends up going out with another girl and she's heart broken and later he finds out she loves him and he's hurt her. What's he to do? Does she keep trying, does she let him go, does she wait til he dumps her or she leaves him.
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1. Whether she does things for him or not is wholly irrelevant to how he should feel about her romantically.
2. If he doesn't notice or deliberately ignores her hints, he might not be interested. It's hard being in this position because some people don't want to be friends with you any more if you won't go out with them, so ignoring it is quite tempting.
3. Presumably he's going out with the second girl because he liked her. Perhaps he even asked her out.
4. It's sad that she's heartbroken but she'll get over it and grow stronger from it. It's not as traumatic as a broken relationship.
5. She should let him go and avoid becoming a psycho about it. If she wants to wait for him she can, but there's no reason to believe that he'll be any more interested after dumping the other girl than he was at the start.

(Aww but it's quite interesting, I'll make a special thread for it.)

R
 
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animefreak17 said:
But what about what the childhood wants what if she says she's in love with you and would do anything for you and she doesn't see you as family but as someone she's in love with.
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See....once someone starts talking like that it just puts me off. I don't want someone who would spend their whole life just following me around like a lapdog, just wanting to please me. I'd want them to be their own person.
 
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I just don't understand relationships and the only ones I know are the ones on anime and on tv.......Yeah I know there not real but as the viewer you know what's happening and you know who's good for who and in some series they they just put them together because it's what the readers want or what the creator wants.

I tend to stay away from girls because of my childhood trauma........it wasn't a girl's fault if that's what your thinking it's something else and that's why i never went out with anyone so I can't understand relationships.

But doesn't it make you angry when a character you like doesn't end up with the guy she likes ........it makes me angry when that happens.
 
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GolGotha said:
animefreak17 said:
But what about what the childhood wants what if she says she's in love with you and would do anything for you and she doesn't see you as family but as someone she's in love with.
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See....once someone starts talking like that it just puts me off. I don't want someone who would spend their whole life just following me around like a lapdog, just wanting to please me. I'd want them to be their own person.
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But what if they are there own person but just loved that childhood person
 
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