Kira said:
Please, someone help me set the record straight.
Well actually, as far as i'm concerned, the following Gundam series are "kiddy". They were originally pitched at kids, though some of the elements are perfectly watchable for adults.
- Gundam 0079 Series (not the movies. The series was a bit of a monster of the week toy commericial)
- Gundam Double Zeta (note: "kiddy" not synonym for "crap", it just happens to coincide)
- G Gundam (The series brief was practically "introduce gundam to a new generation". A silly fighting anime.)
- Gundam Wing (Again the brief was to recycle Gundam 0079 for a new generation, Especially a new generation that included Females. The plot totally lacks coherence and logic, because it's just an excuse to have robots beat each other up. Chances are that your perception of Gundam is shaped by Gundam Wing, as it's the only series to be shown on TV here. It's not entirely terrible, but I'd never recommend it to anyone.)
- Gundam X (And the same again, except that it's not available outside Asia)
- Superior Defender Gundam Force (No brainer there, this was aimed squarely at the youngest of kids)
And then you have what I feel are the "Teenager" Gundams, occasionally quite mature in content, but then lacking a certain something
- Gundam Seed (blood gets spilled and so on, but really it's quite an adolescent boy's anime were stuff gets blown up. Yet another "gundam for a new generation")
- Gundam Seed Destiny (as above but with more terribly patronising plot twists and deus ex machinas, and a long line of dribble forming in the mouth of the last 20 episodes).
- Turn A Gundam (Totally different to every other Gundam. Perhaps its lack of straightforward action is a sign of maturity, but there isn't a lot of violence and the death tally barely breaks into double figures)
- Victory Gundam (sure it's "dark" in that there's lots of killing, but 90% of the protagonists are young kids which makes it clear where they're pitching it)
That leaves Zeta Gundam, 08TH MS Team, 0080, 0083, F91, Char's Counterattack... and possibly the original series' movies which cut the flab. These series were largely pitched to exisiting fans who had grown up with the original series, and thus come across as far more mature (sadly, ZZ Gundam was a major blip and kind of ruins the continuity). The first four in that list are IMO where it's at, though I also love Turn A and Victory, and quite like Gundam Seed.
Though this is kind of irrelevent unless you're ok with Importing, since the only Gundam properties worth buying that are available are Gundam Seed and the Gundam 0079 movies (3pc boxset coming soon...)
I also recommend Macross Plus if you haven't seen it. Mecha or no mecha, it's a good anime. Escaflowne gets a nod from me also, as it always does as a decent anime that treads a line between brilliant action and more intimate character-based interactions.