RahXephon VS Evangelion Thread

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hopeful_monster

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Since every time one of these two series is mentioned the other is soon dragged into the thread. Kinda like a Godwin's Law for mecha i guess. Now decided to start up a fresh thread so it can hopefully clear out of the separate Eva thread that CitizenGeek started. Was going to call it a debate, but that implies minds might be changed. Truly doubt that will happen though. Now form my opening argument.
Neon Genesis Evangelion- A classic and ground breaking anime that has probably affected all anime since it was made. This however does not mean it is perfect or that is suits everyone's tastes. I suppose if you where to boil it down its core elements it's about shinji's psychological state of mind as he tries to cope with growing up and the pressures put upon him by his father, his 'friends' and society. With mecha and jail bait thrown in. The story structure is sloppy, the characters irritating (but believable) and the ending makes little sense unless you pick up on a few small clues through out the series and you are in a certain frame of mind when you watch it. Despite all this it is a good series and well worth watching. It has some memberable characters, some great episodes, and still has some of the most awe inspiring Mecha battles to date. It has great parts but is let down as a whole. A real curate's egg.
Rahxephon- A more recent production that borrows/ pays homage/ rips off many anime series (Eva, Brain Powered, Riedeen, Macross, Nadesico to name a few) but lets be honest Eva did the same to it's predecessors. Rahxephon at it's core is a love story between Ayato and Haruka trying to overcome life, death, time and reality. Mecha and music are thrown in to mix it up a little. It has a lot more thought and planning put into the plot with great use of foreshadowing and red herrings to draw you along. While the characters are more straight forward than in eva, they are no less complex, and all seem to have a wider range on emotions each. RahXephon has a lot slower pacing than Eva and action is not the main focus of the show (one fight with a dolem is reduced to 'And that it for out guest dolem of the day') with there being more humour (slap stick, puns and wit) and romance. The ending is also full of imagery but it is slightly clearer in it's meaning and tortures the characters less.

Prefence is purely down to personal opinion as both are good. I just prefer RahXephon. Now i'm going to get some marshmallows and prepare for the flame war.
 
Ever hear of Dresden?

I'm not going to waste time proving that Eva is better than RahXephon because it's much quicker to prove that RahXephon is just plain bad. For me it isn't an issue of Eva being slightly better than RahXephon. there are other somewhat similar series like Big O which are much better than RahXephon but are still nowhere near Eva's league.

Reasons why I think there is nothing good about RahXephon other than Reika and Reika orgasming:


* Too many characters and as a result no character development or at least strange character development. Example; They spend the entire fifth episode developing a character who has minimal importance in the show.

* The "love story" is totally ridiculous and unbelieveable. Not only that it isn't even handled well. There is barely any build up to it and so some early events even contradict the premise it is built on. It comes almost completely out of nowhere.

* Similarly too many subplots which weren't developed sufficiently. It felt like they were trying to cram in as much as possible. Certain parts of it such as Asahina's death felt totally forced.

* The Mysteries were far too complex too care about and their solutions were uninteresting.

* No themes are explored in the show at all despite the fact that it seeks to present itself as being very mature and sophisticated with all the jazz and classical music. It's complete image over substance. There's no way you should have a right to play Wagner right at the start before any situation or mood has been established.

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CitizenGeek said:
Who's the studio behind RahXephon?
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Studio BONES, and I don't have an opinion on this epic versus thread as of yet, since I've yet to see RahXephon, so I can't judge fairly, however I will be watching it today. I've made plans.
 
CitizenGeek said:
Ark said:
CitizenGeek said:
Who's the studio behind RahXephon?
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Here's a hint. Its name is what its staff should be reduced to.
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BONES? But, they totally rock! They made Fullmetal Alchemist and that was beautifully and brilliantly animated!
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It don't care what shows look like if they suck. I actually thought FMA was okay but here's something to ponder, "I found it funny that Ed was shorter than his younger brother Al. It made me laugh."-Seiji Mizushima
 
They're both good in their own ways.

A creator of Rahxephon acknowledged in a interview somewhere that the wide range of characters was intentional, to reflect the fact that such a society would consist of tens of thousands of people.

Then again, I always thought the younger TERRA staff took things way too easily when there wasn't a fight on.
 
Cheeky said:
A creator of Rahxephon acknowledged in a interview somewhere that the wide range of characters was intentional, to reflect the fact that such a society would consist of tens of thousands of people.
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I don't understand?
 
To be honest RahXephon is more approachable than Evangelion. I guess its because RahXephon has more obvious comedy to counterbalance the strange physiological aspects of it while Evangelion doesn't to such an extent.
To be honest I’ve only recently seen both series so I can see both pretty clearly in my mind. Evangelion is darker and more disgusting in places but RahXephon has its moments the whole blue blood freaked me out .

In fact its a little ironic they both got licensed by ADV.

But as for which is better, thats down to opinion. I like them both.
 
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Sakimori said:
To be honest RahXephon is more approachable than Evangelion. I guess its because RahXephon has more obvious comedy to counterbalance the strange physiological aspects of it while Evangelion doesn't to such an extent.
To be honest I’ve only recently seen both series so I can see both pretty clearly in my mind. Evangelion is darker and more disgusting in places but RahXephon has its moments the whole blue blood freaked me out .

In fact its a little ironic they both got licensed by ADV.

But as for which is better, thats down to opinion. I like them both.
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Really? I thought Eva had much more slap stick in it. I don't remember much humour in Rah at all.
 
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Ark said:
Sakimori said:
To be honest RahXephon is more approachable than Evangelion. I guess its because RahXephon has more obvious comedy to counterbalance the strange physiological aspects of it while Evangelion doesn't to such an extent.
To be honest I’ve only recently seen both series so I can see both pretty clearly in my mind. Evangelion is darker and more disgusting in places but RahXephon has its moments the whole blue blood freaked me out .

In fact its a little ironic they both got licensed by ADV.

But as for which is better, thats down to opinion. I like them both.
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Really? I thought Eva had much more slap stick in it. I don't remember much humour in Rah at all.
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Well I Evangelion has comedy in it as well. Such as the Asuka kissing Shinji while holding his nose that was pretty funny. I don't know that’s just how it seams to me. The point I’m trying to make is that it depends on your point of view on weather RahXephon or Evangelion is better.
 
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Sakimori said:
Ark said:
Sakimori said:
To be honest RahXephon is more approachable than Evangelion. I guess its because RahXephon has more obvious comedy to counterbalance the strange physiological aspects of it while Evangelion doesn't to such an extent.
To be honest I’ve only recently seen both series so I can see both pretty clearly in my mind. Evangelion is darker and more disgusting in places but RahXephon has its moments the whole blue blood freaked me out .

In fact its a little ironic they both got licensed by ADV.

But as for which is better, thats down to opinion. I like them both.
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Really? I thought Eva had much more slap stick in it. I don't remember much humour in Rah at all.
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Well I Evangelion has comedy in it as well. Such as the Asuka kissing Shinji while holding his nose that was pretty funny. I don't know that’s just how it seams to me. The point I’m trying to make is that it depends on your point of view on weather RahXephon or Evangelion is better.
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Well obviously personal tastes are subjective but certain things are factual like RahXephon having no themes or having a lot of characters.
 
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Ark said:
... but certain things are factual like RahXephon having no themes or having a lot of characters.
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And you being a rabid fanboi troll with no respect for other peoples tastes or opinions. :wink:

Seriously, why can't you just accept that some people happen to like things as well as Evangelion. :?:
 
Tasker said:
Ark said:
... but certain things are factual like RahXephon having no themes or having a lot of characters.
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Seriously, why can't you just accept that some people happen to like things as well as Evangelion. :?:
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I don't know it's just so hard for me. Despite what my profile says I really find it impossible to understand why anyone would like anime other than Eva.
 
Well in the same way you find that hard to understand they find your point of view hard to understand.
I think sometimes the acceptance of other peoples points of view always seem to make these kinds of threads ultimatly go nowhere.
(except for the entertaining arguements of course)=D
 
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