"Pokémon x Nobunaga's Ambition" Announced

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JUMP FESTA has been and gone in Japan and The Pokémon Company's surprise announcement was a crossover of their Pokémon series and Tecmo Koei's Nobunaga's Ambition tactical RPG series - rather originally called Pokémon x Nobunaga's Ambition.

The game is for the Nintendo DS (NOT 3DS) and will be released in Japan in Spring 2012.

Looking at the promotional artwork...so purdy...please release an artbook!

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Me and ilmaestro where discussing this last night on the chat while waiting for the trailer to appear(http://youtu.be/u34bzH5Eo04 for the YT link). It's certainly bizarre, yet somehow genius at the same time. It's only a DS game too, so we can safely import for the DS, if you have the original model, or lite model. Trust Tecmo-Koei to team up with Nintendo for something on this level of...strange. Still, safe to say i'm interested now.
 
All DS models, even the Nintendo 3DS, can play DS games. The only issue will be is if it's DSi-enhanced, like Pokémon Black and White are. Even then though, DS Phat and Lite consoles will play them *has my JP White on right now*.

Here's some more information.
 
I'll probably end up buying this, but not on release. I love crazy crossovers, and including Purin is always good.

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Arby summed it up! Somehow I won't be able to let this pass me by, out of some bizarre curiosity.

Kind of sad it won't be in 3D, but I can see why they wouldn't want to move such a huge crossover title to the smaller userbase just yet.
 
Not a fan of this, final fantasy types don't interest me.

Which is strange because i enjoy pokemon but not FF, and the battle system for both is on a very basic level of speaking - the same thing really, turn based attacks with other factors like sand/snowstorms and weaknesses in the mix.

I think its because in FF and games that try to be FF they are trying to make it more and more realistic looking, the humans themselves take turns to hit the monster and things, i just can't accept that because if there was a huge monster in real life, there's no way on earth that a person will stand there doing a "turn based assault" on the monster.

Whereas i can believe it in pokemon because its anime and thus doesn't comply with real world logic at times and because its not humans taking it in turns to fight, its monsters fighting so they are varied, some can be fast, some can be slow ect ect.

TLDR; i don't think i'll like this game because it reminds me of FF and IMO FF's realistic properties make it a failure to me, pokemon is less realistic and the turn based attacks make more sense.
 
Tachi said:
Not a fan of this, final fantasy types don't interest me.
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It's more like Fire Emblem or Tactics Ogre.


Tachi said:
TLDR; i don't think i'll like this game because it reminds me of FF and IMO FF's realistic properties make it a failure to me, pokemon is less realistic and the turn based attacks make more sense.
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FF is hardly realistic.

Not really interested in the game, it could be good but as it is now I'm not feeling it.
 
hmm, i guess i'm just fickle.

I played golden sun when i was younger but didn't like it. Played FF and also didn't like it. Played FF tactics and thought... its essentially FF and chess.... i like it.

When i say realistic; the graphics are getting better and humans are looking more like humans and not like ps1 pixelated block people graphics or sprites. So in looking more realistic i'd expect the fights to be more realistic - forget the turn based tactics and bring in actual attacks that hit when you press the button, im asking for FF story with graphics on dynasty warriors - i'd be sold on that idea.

If i wanted to be a tactician i'd play a RTS like R.U.S.E

logic just departed through yonder window.
 
Tachi said:
hmm, i guess i'm just fickle.

I played golden sun when i was younger but didn't like it. Played FF and also didn't like it. Played FF tactics and thought... its essentially FF and chess.... i like it.

When i say realistic; the graphics are getting better and humans are looking more like humans and not like ps1 pixelated block people graphics or sprites. So in looking more realistic i'd expect the fights to be more realistic - forget the turn based tactics and bring in actual attacks that hit when you press the button, im asking for FF story with graphics on dynasty warriors - i'd be sold on that idea.

If i wanted to be a tactician i'd play a RTS like R.U.S.E

logic just departed through yonder window.
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Dynasty Warriors is well known for realism - one swing of your weapon mowing down hundreds of the enemy :roll:
 
I completely agree with the first part, but on hard mode it doesn't take one swipe to kill em, it takes alot more to kill a grunt let alone a general.
 
If you're looking for realism, you should never invest time in gaming in the first place. Gaming is never about the realism, it's about the entertainment. Nobunaga's Ambition X Pokemon is a fun concept in which they basically suggest that every person has perhaps a spirit-type beast counterpart and instead of doing battle as each of the human forms in a strategy RPG style, you do so as pokemon. And in doing this, it takes away the realistic element, and adds in that Fantasy Element instead. It adds new ideas into the mix for battle ideas. Besides, if you where looking for graphics, the DS is what this is on, not the 3DS, or PSP, or Vita. You aren't going to get them here, and you don't need them really either.
 
Arbalest said:
If you're looking for realism, you should never invest time in gaming in the first place. Gaming is never about the realism, it's about the entertainment.
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Not true, gaming is what you want out of it, most of the time a decent storyline, controls that aren't too overly complicated and the best looking graphics you can get will ensure you'll enjoy the game, together they can make it completely abstract from reality or they could be the most realistic looking, sounding, forest in the middle of nowhere. So i don't think "gaming is never about realism" is the correct thing to say arby - just sayin'

Arbalest said:
Nobunaga's Ambition X Pokemon is a fun concept in which they basically suggest that every person has perhaps a spirit-type beast counterpart and instead of doing battle as each of the human forms in a strategy RPG style, you do so as pokemon. And in doing this, it takes away the realistic element, and adds in that Fantasy Element instead. It adds new ideas into the mix for battle ideas. Besides, if you where looking for graphics, the DS is what this is on, not the 3DS, or PSP, or Vita. You aren't going to get them here, and you don't need them really either.
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you seem to have missed my point, i was saying that it is a game that is similar to FF and my main bug bear with FF was that i just couldn't believe that a human would take turns to fight a monster, it dettached that "this is possible" element too far away for me and thus it wasn't real. But in FF games they do strive to make the graphics as real as possible so it only furthers my opinion that the more lifelike they make the humans in FF games but keep the turn based attacks the further removed from normal nature it becomes.

thats why i said that if FF where to make a game where the graphics where FF level but the gameplay was like DW on hard mode - i'd love that because it'd be more natural because in no war in the history of the world has anyone had a war and kept to "lets take turns to attack, you first then i'm next" so both partys hit when they want to hit, not taking turns.

If this is what i think your trying to say - the humans don't fight, the pokemon do. So in a way the only thing thats changed this from any other pokemon game is that you choose the look of your character and choose your starter pokemon but you can only ever have that 1 pokemon. I'm tempted to buy it when it comes out to see if its a decent crossover or if it just ruins both titles.
 
I actually re-thought out the idea of realism not too long after i posted that, primarily for the fact that there is FPS games made to incorporate realism. Red Orchestra 2 is praised for it, but at the same time is a complete push away for people because it has been referred to as "too realistic". So sure, there is some games out there like that.

But again, gaming isn't about the graphics, it is about enjoyment. The one thing that has always annoyed me, and it did so even at high school, was how people refused to play games because they thought the graphics where bad. Yet the game(s) they refer to are probably some of the best things to hit consoles at the time. I admit, seeing a game look lush is fantastic, Batman and Skyrim can be jaw-droppingly gorgeous with their attention to detail and skydomes, but again, that wasn't what pulled me in, and i doubt that would ever be what would for me. But yeah, i always did think like that, hah.


Pulling myself back to Pokemon x Nobunaga's Ambition(one day i will just write it out one way, not two different). I'm not sure how many games in the Final Fantasy series you've played, considering that if memory serves, only...3? Main series games are turn based(I, III and X, could be wrong with III, haven't played it in a while). The rest are time based. Tactics is turn based yeah, but that is outside the main series and tries new things. Crystal Chronicles is all real time. I guess my point is, if you're looking for a "turn based game where you fight monsters" FF isn't exactly the best series to look to. Specially with the direction XIII, XIII-2, Versus and Type-0 have taken it, as well as XII. Breath of Fire may suit that idea better.

Regardless, Erm. With the game. You don't choose who your pokemon is from every single one available. Each character seems to have one associated with him/her. Oichi has Jigglypuff for example, Oda Nobunaga has someone i don't recognise, and the main character, whether you choose male of female, looks to get Eevee. That's going by the trailer anyways. In terms of gameplay, we can see it's an Turn-based Strat. How it'll work, hard to say. I need to find a video focused on the gameplay itself to make a proper judgement on that. But i expect it'll work like most, or possibly Nobunaga's Ambition itself. Though i need someone to tell me what that is actually like.
 
While I can agree Final Fantasy's graphics are more photo-realistic now, I don't think that makes the game 'realistic' at all. I've still not seen anyone with pink hair naturally in real life, nor would I expect to see someone scantly clad in freezing cold environments facing off against mighty beasts and summoning Odin!

I think the "Fantasy" in the title is crucial to note. It doesn't try to be realistic in the way you describe, Tachi. Also, Active-Time Battle system of FF13 makes the whole thing a lot more 'realistic' in that everyone is constantly fighting than the old Turn-Based.
 
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