Oreimo season two has been licensed by Aniplex USA

[Mangaranga]

I was about to say that they would most likely need the BBFC to rate everything they would want to sell here but then I thought...how does UP1 get away with selling US imports then?

UP1 shouldn't, just no one has prosecuted them yet.

sell "here" is really specific, selling to here doesn't count.
e.g Amazon EU (which is in Luxembourg) doesn't need BBFC certs (you can buy uncerted things off their other language sites no problem.)

I assume that as a mail order company they can sell imports in a way a shop cannot? Unless you saying it is definately illegal?

F/Z is getting a dub http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl94WZWya-M So I assume we'll get a shiny new set of some kind, hopefully with a BD option available.

Wasn't this announced last month?

I'm hoping Aniplex do a pricier BD multi volume release using the Japanese masters + Subbed/Dubbed Extras rather than a barebones, re-encoded BD, or worse, DVD only.
I'd much rather pay more and get the best quality video/unlocked subs with Aniplex, especially with all the sub locked/crippled BDs coming out.

I've had the files for Fate/Zero for ages but it's one of those shows which I can't bring myself to watch until I have the physical BD in my hands.

 

[Rosencrantz]

F/Z is getting a dub http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl94WZWya-M So I assume we'll get a shiny new set of some kind, hopefully with a BD option available.

Wasn't this announced last month?

I'm hoping Aniplex do a pricier BD multi volume release using the Japanese masters + Subbed/Dubbed Extras rather than a barebones, re-encoded BD, or worse, DVD only.
I'd much rather pay more and get the best quality video/unlocked subs with Aniplex, especially with all the sub locked/crippled BDs coming out.

I've had the files for Fate/Zero for ages but it's one of those shows which I can't bring myself to watch until I have the physical BD in my hands.

I think I must of mis-read Rui's comment about hoping F/Z gets a rerelease cheaper. A dub ofc guarantees a rerelease but not the price they decide to attach. I too wouldn't mind paying for a top notch release, just not the eyewatering $1000 of the original set.

 

[Joshawott]

I just hope AniplexUSA have mercy when it comes to Sword Art Online. I imagine they'll probably release that one in 4 parts - 2 volumes for Alfheim Online and 2 volumes for the Fairy Dance arc (I'd prefer one for each, but this is Aniplex).

 

[Rui]

F/Z on BD can be obtained for $800, let's not exaggerate (including delivery and customs, if you buy from Yesasia). That's still expensive but 20% less than the figures being thrown around.

I'll eat my hat if they don't rerelease it again for the west later at a cheaper price point, in the normal time frame for a western release. Expecting the full quality with all of the same extras as well as a dub and BD for a tenth of the price might be pushing it unless you plan to wait for a rather long time until the BD sets are sold out and long forgotten, though. Paying significantly less usually involves sacrificing one or two things beyond fancy packaging, to protect early adopters.

R

 

[Rosencrantz]

F/Z on BD can be obtained for $800, let's not exaggerate (including delivery and customs, if you buy from Yesasia). That's still expensive but 20% less than the figures being thrown around.

I'll eat my hat if they don't rerelease it again for the west later at a cheaper price point, in the normal time frame for a western release. Expecting the full quality with all of the same extras as well as a dub and BD for a tenth of the price might be pushing it unless you plan to wait for a rather long time until the BD sets are sold out and long forgotten, though. Paying significantly less usually involves sacrificing one or two things beyond fancy packaging, to protect early adopters.

R

Well looking at it closer I did over egg the RRP by about $30-40 due to the 2nd set being cheaper. I'm sure a shopping around can lead to getting a better price but you still have to factor in a potential import hit and it's a juicy customs target.

I agree expecting a $80-100 BD set is unrealistic, the price will never be that low as they will likely do a single release at lower prices and not return to the show. I'd expect we'll get something along the lines of a 2 set release at $100-150 a set. Looking at the original sets they obviously had a ton of physical extras but not much extra on disc so i'd hope we'd get the basic content.

 

[Rui]

I did factor in customs; that's why I used Yesasia for the comparison they take care of customs for you. Amazon is probably cheaper depending on when you order but the numbers are more awkward to demonstrate.

The imports vs cheap set discussions always make me think of this. In a choice between speed, quality and price, I prefer to sacrifice the latter.

R

 

[Rosencrantz]

I did factor in customs; that's why I used Yesasia for the comparison they take care of customs for you. Amazon is probably cheaper depending on when you order but the numbers are more awkward to demonstrate.

The imports vs cheap set discussions always make me think of this. In a choice between speed, quality and price, I prefer to sacrifice the latter.

R

Ah, thats some good info then, i'll have to look into Yesasia.

That triangle sums it up nicely, you want speed and quality you have to pay the price. Want lower prices and you'll have to sacrifice speed or quality or both. Simple yet often overlooked I think

 

[ayase]

The imports vs cheap set discussions always make me think of this. In a choice between speed, quality and price, I prefer to sacrifice the latter.

Huh, interesting. Personally I'd be happy for things to take their time, if it meant they'd be good quality and cheap.

 

[Rosencrantz]

The imports vs cheap set discussions always make me think of this. In a choice between speed, quality and price, I prefer to sacrifice the latter.

Huh, interesting. Personally I'd be happy for things to take their time, if it meant they'd be good quality and cheap.

I think i'd probably agree with this position, but i'm from a back ground where I was used to waiting years for titles to make it over. With all the legal streaming and illegal downloads available is waiting a viable option for companies? It may be our eagerness to cut down on the time taken to see the latest show is what has scuppered us now on prices.

 

[Rui]

I think everyone kept moaning about the time when it would take years for things to even begin to be licensed. Lately we seem to be sacrificing the quality instead, which I am not sure anyone really asked for (it's probably not noticeable to most people though, sadly, so companies get away with it).

R

 

[Rosencrantz]

(it's probably not noticeable to most people though, sadly, so companies get away with it).

R

I think that's the key statement, if something isn't noticed by most customers it's the best scenario a company could hope for, as slow releases or high prices are obvious.

 

[Mangaranga]

I think everyone kept moaning about the time when it would take years for things to even begin to be licensed. Lately we seem to be sacrificing the quality instead, which I am not sure anyone really asked for (it's probably not noticeable to most people though, sadly, so companies get away with it).

R

This is the most annoying part.
Sacrificing Quality, whether it be subs or Picture Quality (or both in the case of Penguindrum) and pissing off your legitimate customers is not the way to go, especially when it's not even remotely difficult to go and find a much better overall quality rip which someone has created in their spare time. If you were to download something, 99% of the time you don't need to worry about the bad Picture or Sub quality/timing, however, if you were to go and buy a Legitimate, licensed product I personally feel the need to have to check and make sure that it's not a crippled release, or has any other issues.

Now that it's gotten to the point where I personally have to 'research' a title I buy, you know something has gone badly wrong.

Even worse is that now it's gotten to the point where we pick this stuff up so cheaply and with so many episodes at a time, it's pretty much impossible to start charging more again, or go back to something like buying volumes, so we're pretty much stuck like this. Aniplex can just about get away with it their higher price/more than 2 volume releases, but whenever they announce a title they get instant hate. I've even seen reviews/questions on Amazon.com from people who think that being charged $60 for a Funimation half series on BD/DVD with an artbox is far too much.

Anyway I think that I've gone off on a but of a tangent here seeing as it's an Oreimo thread.
Have some Kirino to keep it relevant...

 

[Rosencrantz]

Even worse is that now it's gotten to the point where we pick this stuff up so cheaply and with so many episodes at a time, it's pretty much impossible to start charging more again, or go back to something like buying volumes, so we're pretty much stuck like this. Aniplex can just about get away with it their higher price/more than 2 volume releases, but whenever they announce a title they get instant hate. I've even seen reviews/questions on Amazon.com from people who think that being charged $60 for a Funimation half series on BD/DVD with an artbox is far too much.

Anyway I think that I've gone off on a but of a tangent here seeing as it's an Oreimo thread.

Ye I guess we have veered off, but it's rare to be able to discuss prices and such. More often than not I find myself resisting the urge to counter post when someone says something is expensive when I know I paid a lot more just a few years ago for the same number of eps (and when you consider inflation should mean prices go up it's amazing how cheap Anime is)

With regard to Season 2 i'd say it's welcome but I am a little surprised. Season 1 seamed to wrap things up nicely leaving us in a good spot. I'm not sure if i'll have the chance to watch this online but i'll pop it on my mental hit list for a buy when it's released.

 

[Otaku-san]

Re: The News Thread (for news that does not need a thread)

"Canon"
oh. goody. more "I can not belvie my sister is so cute". how will i ever contain my excitement. maybe i can buy me a dvd blurayset from aniplex for over £300uk. that might contain my excitement. is all this excitement too much to take

Oh I'm (possible) interested in the another season, paying that price for it...not so much

 

[ilmaestro]

While Oreimo certainly does pander

I feel like some knee-jerk denial is in order here, even though you both qualified it straight afterwards and are also probably correct.

I think "pander" suggests something more go-out-of-your-way than anything in OreImo, which is just set up in such a way as to... err... "naturally" pander, for a very distinct lack of a better term. So yeah, more pandering than some kind of baseline comparison which has none at all, less pandering than shows with actual pandas imo.

I just hope AniplexUSA have mercy when it comes to Sword Art Online. I imagine they'll probably release that one in 4 parts - 2 volumes for Alfheim Online and 2 volumes for the Fairy Dance arc (I'd prefer one for each, but this is Aniplex).

But those are the same arc. :s

/pedantry

 

[Rosencrantz]

While Oreimo certainly does pander

I feel like some knee-jerk denial is in order here, even though you both qualified it straight afterwards and are also probably correct.

I think "pander" suggests something more go-out-of-your-way than anything in OreImo, which is just set up in such a way as to... err... "naturally" pander, for a very distinct lack of a better term. So yeah, more pandering than some kind of baseline comparison which has none at all, less pandering than shows with actual pandas imo.

It's a tricky one to call, it is essentially perfectly lined up for the target market. Is that pandering or just insanely good marketing that others probably wish they'd got too first?

 

[ilmaestro]

That's close to what I'm saying, yeah. It's not, say, a World War II drama that happens to shoe-horn in some imouto love and I don't think it's an egregiously exploitative show (I am aware this may be up for debate). I think there are a lot of shows from the last few years that have been influenced by OreImo and are far more obviously simple "pandering".

 

[Joshawott]

I just hope AniplexUSA have mercy when it comes to Sword Art Online. I imagine they'll probably release that one in 4 parts - 2 volumes for Alfheim Online and 2 volumes for the Fairy Dance arc (I'd prefer one for each, but this is Aniplex).

But those are the same arc. :s

/pedantry

Sorry, I keep on getting Aincrad and Alfheim mixed up xD

That's close to what I'm saying, yeah. It's not, say, a World War II drama that happens to shoe-horn in some imouto love and I don't think it's an egregiously exploitative show (I am aware this may be up for debate). I think there are a lot of shows from the last few years that have been influenced by OreImo and are far more obviously simple "pandering".

"Mein Fuhrer Can't Be This Cute!", which re-imagines Hitler as a busty tsundere anime girl, needs to happen now.

 

[ilmaestro]

loooooool

Yes, that would be pandering.

 

[Otaku-san]

That's close to what I'm saying, yeah. It's not, say, a World War II drama that happens to shoe-horn in some imouto love and I don't think it's an egregiously exploitative show (I am aware this may be up for debate). I think there are a lot of shows from the last few years that have been influenced by OreImo and are far more obviously simple "pandering".

"Mein Fuhrer Can't Be This Cute!", which re-imagines Hitler as a busty tsundere anime girl, needs to happen now.

By any chance can her nipples pierce Jerusalem?