Manga sniffing out fan opinion on Patlabor...

Mohawk52 said:
I wonder if they wouldn't mind "sniffing" if fans would rather they licensed the Funimation titles that got biffed by Revelation when they bailed out of anime distribution? Titles like Beck, and Hell Girl? :wink:
We can import that stuff from the US though. Patlabor has gone OOP in R1 and is a more important rescue IMO. Hell, given the prices the OVA sets go for now Manga would probably get US fans importing the UK DVDs.
 
ayase said:
Mohawk52 said:
I wonder if they wouldn't mind "sniffing" if fans would rather they licensed the Funimation titles that got biffed by Revelation when they bailed out of anime distribution? Titles like Beck, and Hell Girl? :wink:
We can import that stuff from the US though. Patlabor has gone OOP in R1 and is a more important rescue IMO. Hell, given the prices the OVA sets go for now Manga would probably get US fans importing the UK DVDs.
True, but I would rather have a complete collection in R2 than having some in R2 and the rest in R1. I'm just like that is all.
 
Reevothemusefan said:
Mohawk52 said:
Titles like Beck

THIS!! PLEASE MVM, HEAR MY CALL, LET ME HAVE MY FULL COLLECTION ;_;

/EndPointlessCAPSLOCKPlea

The problem with licensing the unfinished Revelation titles is a lot of people possibly would've bought the individual volumes and then bought the import volumes to finish the series. It's a risky situation and neither us nor Manga want to spend a fortune on something that technically has already been out albeit unfinished.
 
MVM said:
Reevothemusefan said:
Mohawk52 said:
Titles like Beck

THIS!! PLEASE MVM, HEAR MY CALL, LET ME HAVE MY FULL COLLECTION ;_;

/EndPointlessCAPSLOCKPlea

The problem with licensing the unfinished Revelation titles is a lot of people possibly would've bought the individual volumes and then bought the import volumes to finish the series. It's a risky situation and neither us nor Manga want to spend a fortune on something that technically has already been out albeit unfinished.

I understand, thanks for the response guys!
 
MVM said:
Reevothemusefan said:
Mohawk52 said:
Titles like Beck

THIS!! PLEASE MVM, HEAR MY CALL, LET ME HAVE MY FULL COLLECTION ;_;

/EndPointlessCAPSLOCKPlea

The problem with licensing the unfinished Revelation titles is a lot of people possibly would've bought the individual volumes and then bought the import volumes to finish the series. It's a risky situation and neither us nor Manga want to spend a fortune on something that technically has already been out albeit unfinished.
Well I'm not one of them for the reason I stated above. Also I'm sure there are the fans who were going to buy the R2's, but were scared off by Revelation's bailing. Also there's the second season of Hell Girl I want as well, and I can't be the only one. There's no success without risks, but if you don't take the risk.... :wink: You guy's cry "Support us!" then don't give us something worth supporting? Come on! :roll:
 
Unfortunately Hell Girl did so horribly in the US that Funimation dropped it, so it would be a matter of getting season 1 materials from Funimation then trying to get the rest via Sentai (or however it works) and even then the dub fans would end up disappointed.

The fact that it was dropped at all probably means its audience was too small, even where another failure of a company hadn't cannibalised the potential market with an aborted release :(

I don't know why it never took off, it's such a great series.

R
 
Mohawk52 said:
True, but I would rather have a complete collection in R2 than having some in R2 and the rest in R1. I'm just like that is all.
So buy the R1 complete collection of Hell Girl, then sell or give away your R2s. Going R1 will cost no more than a theoretical UK release of the last three volumes would.

Beck seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth, so that one's a bit trickier.

If those series were selling well it's fair to assume the licenses wouldn't have been pulled in the first place. Any UK distributor would be insane to go back and finish them off.
 
I'm actually really shocked about beck not being printed anymore. My friend lent it to me and I absolutely loved it. i was planning on buying it for a friend for christmas as she has the unfinished dvds and for myself but I know that won't happen now. I would easily grab that show up in a heart beat if it was released on dvd by mvm or manga. if not by them, we can always have a push at beez at a straight to legends title.
 
fabricatedlunatic said:
Mohawk52 said:
True, but I would rather have a complete collection in R2 than having some in R2 and the rest in R1. I'm just like that is all.
So buy the R1 complete collection of Hell Girl, then sell or give away your R2s. Going R1 will cost no more than a theoretical UK release of the last three volumes would.
So this is your way to supporting anime in the UK? Just import everything in fear that R2's will possibly never be completed? Just give away my uncompleted titles I've spent good money on to a charity shop? I don't think so.

Beck seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth, so that one's a bit trickier.

If those series were selling well it's fair to assume the licenses wouldn't have been pulled in the first place. Any UK distributor would be insane to go back and finish them off.
And Patlabor is any different, or more deserving?
 
I know last year that the actual name of the show, Beck, vanished, no doubt because of copyright issues.

Thereafter it was known as Mongolian Chop Squad, and I was going to mention that the SAVE release of that by Funimation was easy to find. Except that it isn't. Typing Mongolian Chop Squad into a search engine just shows up a few of the remaining single volumes!

The only complete boxset listing I find is for the Italian boxset on Amazon, the English language one is selling for daft prices.

If you want it, you'll have to mix and match single volumes. You can snaffle out the UK volumes 1-4 if you shop around for around £5 apiece

TRSI has volumes 1,3,4, and 6 at clearance prices $3 each or less.

While 1,2, 4, and 5 are available from Madman in Australia at full price.
 
Mohawk52 said:
fabricatedlunatic said:
Beck seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth, so that one's a bit trickier.

If those series were selling well it's fair to assume the licenses wouldn't have been pulled in the first place. Any UK distributor would be insane to go back and finish them off.
And Patlabor is any different, or more deserving?
Different? Yes, because release has never been attempted in the UK and the US licence has lapsed leading second-hand prices to skyrocket. Hell Girl is still under licence in the US I believe, and Beck can still be found fairly cheaply. Not that it doesn't deserve to be picked up again too, but to answer your second question, Patlabor is more deserving.
 
ayase said:
.....but to answer your second question, Patlabor is more deserving.
To where I disagree. To me all three are just as deserving, none more so than the other, and if Manga, or Beez, or MVM want my money they will have to take that consideration seriously. :wink:
 
Mohawk52 said:
So this is your way to supporting anime in the UK? Just import everything in fear that R2's will possibly never be completed? Just give away my uncompleted titles I've spent good money on to a charity shop? I don't think so.
Keep waiting, then, and see where that will get you.

Tell you what, rather than moaning about it, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and license and release the titles yourself? Must be worth taking a risk, no?

And Patlabor is any different, or more deserving?
Don't know what you're getting at here.
 
Mohawk52 said:
ayase said:
.....but to answer your second question, Patlabor is more deserving.
To where I disagree. To me all three are just as deserving, none more so than the other, and if Manga, or Beez, or MVM want my money they will have to take that consideration seriously. :wink:
They have to take seriously your statement to the effect that you would be equally likely to buy any of three shows they could potentially release? :p
 
fabricatedlunatic said:
Mohawk52 said:
So this is your way to supporting anime in the UK? Just import everything in fear that R2's will possibly never be completed? Just give away my uncompleted titles I've spent good money on to a charity shop? I don't think so.
Keep waiting, then, and see where that will get you.

Tell you what, rather than moaning about it, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and license and release the titles yourself? Must be worth taking a risk, no?
I have been waiting and still am. If I was in the business, I would care as much about the satisfaction of anime fans as customers as much as I would profits, because the two are totally inseparable, so yes I would take that risk.
 
ayase said:
Mohawk52 said:
ayase said:
.....but to answer your second question, Patlabor is more deserving.
To where I disagree. To me all three are just as deserving, none more so than the other, and if Manga, or Beez, or MVM want my money they will have to take that consideration seriously. :wink:
They have to take seriously your statement to the effect that you would be equally likely to buy any of three shows they could potentially release? :p
You're just being silly here, aren't you? :wink: I have and would buy any and all titles that I considered worth buying, but now I have to wait until a complete series is out before I do, thanks to the likes of ADV and Revelation. That is the legacy left for the rest to have to deal with and deal in I'm afraid.
 
Just Passing Through said:
Thereafter it was known as Mongolian Chop Squad, and I was going to mention that the SAVE release of that by Funimation was easy to find. Except that it isn't.

Whoa, I bought it on impulse for $13 new at just the right time a few months ago ^^;

I have very little interest in the show (hence not having bothered picking it up through all of the previous releases) and just slung it onto an order to pad it out. Some of those prices online right now are just...

Mohawk52 said:
So this is your way to supporting anime in the UK? Just import everything in fear that R2's will possibly never be completed? Just give away my uncompleted titles I've spent good money on to a charity shop? I don't think so.

I have utter respect for any fans who are patient enough to wait for the truncated series to find a second lease of life. In my case, I'm not patient enough for that when things seem so hopeless, and in the case of Hell Girl I felt that supporting the R1s for seasons 2 and 3 was necessary to have any hope of seeing the end, given how badly it had reportedly performed. It's a very special series to me, which makes it worse. At the end of the day I'd rather enjoy the anime than support arbitrary regional divisions, however much I'd like our local industry to be healthy.

Hmm, I suppose my lack of enthusiasm for a local release in this case is actually partly because I want the companies to stay alive. I feel awful when I read about a company only selling 100 copies of a series; we've lost too many big names in the last few years and I want them to do things which are sustainable.

Most long time fans probably have an annoying series here and there they know will never be completed. When there's absolutely nothing that can be done (the non-anime X-Men Evolution and Gargoyles spring to mind for me), it bites. So when there is an out-of-region alternative for something I'm sure is otherwise dead, I go for it.

R
 
Mohawk, your problems seem to stem more from your stubbornness towards "mixed" collections of a series - no-one can support a R2 release that isn't going to happen.
 
ilmaestro said:
Mohawk, your problems seem to stem more from your stubbornness towards "mixed" collections of a series - no-one can support a R2 release that isn't going to happen.
Aye, I accept that and I make no apologies for it either. It could also be from annoyance of listening to the laments of UK distro's to support them when they are reluctant to give that support for whatever reason. At the hazard of repeating myself again; I'll support them if and when they give me something worthwhile to support, which would, or should be no different than any other fan. My stance is Patlabor? Yeah bring it on! And whilst you're at it bring over Beck and Hell-Girl as well. My money waits for all three. What's that? Support someone else in the US instead?, Oh well, I tried (shrugs) (walks away from horse carcass) :arrow:
 
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