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fabio de lunatico
Claymore
So why did you say it? There was no humour in that post at all.
Aion said:
The entire series is like fast food to me - enjoyable but shallow and sort of empty. But I have some kind of freakish endurance, so I may as well see it through until the "enjoyable" part wears off. And I have a freakish endurance for filler forged in years of watching terrible series get extended when they run out of worthwhile material...
Probably dropping Bleach after the second season (or whenever things go back to "normal") though.
I suppose this is yet another demonstration of how widely tastes can vary
R
Aion
Time-Traveller
fabricatedlunatic said:
There was no smiley because I thought you'd see it was a comment said to someone I was familiar with; someone who should've been able to know when I was making a serious threat. If I were daft enough to make a threat via the keyboard, it would involve a broken nose, black eye and a ball being removed with my bare hands - not a slap on the cheek.
Rui: I gave up on Naruto once the fillers really got going. As much as I loved the anime back then, there's only so much mental pain my mind can handle before it malfunctions. Tony the Tiger appearing was too much.
Dropping Bleach after the SS arc ends is a good idea. There are a few great episodes (high budget) after the 1 year of fillers, but most of the episodes look awful in comparison to the first 60 and the story only gets worse. And, with the constant threat of fillers adding to the woes of the anime, it really isn't worth the effort.
BlackWolf said:@Rui if i may ask what do you mean by "Things go back to 'normal" with Bleach?
Aion got what I meant - end of SS arc for my definition of "normal". Not sure where exactly it falls in the anime but I've read a little past there in the manga and got bored quickly and from all accounts the anime does it less graciously. I might pick it up again later but feel no huge drive to continue after that at the moment.
I never really liked Bleach that much (it breaks with convention even less than Naruto) but some of the fights in SS were fun and there were some neat characters.
R
Rui said:BlackWolf said:@Rui if i may ask what do you mean by "Things go back to 'normal" with Bleach?
Aion got what I meant - end of SS arc for my definition of "normal". Not sure where exactly it falls in the anime but I've read a little past there in the manga and got bored quickly and from all accounts the anime does it less graciously. I might pick it up again later but feel no huge drive to continue after that at the moment.
I never really liked Bleach that much (it breaks with convention even less than Naruto) but some of the fights in SS were fun and there were some neat characters.
R
I get you now, well there's a filler arc directly at the end of SS arc in the Bleach anime. I actually prefer Bleach at times to Naruto but this is more to personal preference then anything else.
Though with the current release lists (in america as well as here) its going to be a long while before we get past the first filler arc in bleach on DVDs, while i think we may be onto Naruto Shippiuden by the end of next year by the earliest i reckon
Neferpitou
Stand User
Well where to start lol..
Rui: Well I was talking more to fabricatedlunatic more than yourself, that why didn't reply to many of your comments.
Well some of my favorite characters akabane from get backers & Hisoka from hunter x hunter have certain camp / homesexual quality about them. The relationship between the two lead in getbackers is considered by quite a few a bit too homoerotic for people taste, personal I think its quite quite cute and affectionate.
I Must admit I probably would not read full on hardcore homoerotic material, because simply I am not that way incilnded. It would be like saying to homesexual that you must read a straight hardcore hentai, because frankly why would he want to read it when his sexual kick elsewhere. People don't watch pornography becuase of the storyline.
BUT I would not slag off whole genre because i didn't like a few titles from one magazine.
Its not only shonen jump he looking down on if you read on the first post page 4.
"Quote:
it the extra extremes of this and sexual content that raises a title from shonen to seinen.
And more complex plotting and characterization."
When I honest read claymore first time i honest though it was seienen manga. I think claymore has emotional kick that berserk has, clare had absolutely nothing until befriend by that claymore. Her life to seem to be on the up, until it all came crushing down on her. If that not devastating I don't know what is.
I don't see why you keep on defending someone else who;
1.) Considers a manga to be not worth reading solely on the magazine it released in, when you not even tempt to try it out.
2.) Later talk nonsense suggesting seienen manga having more complex plotting and characterization than shoenen manga, which frankly not always the case. I could name more example of complex shonen like patlabor, hack, Dr. Slump, Fullmetal Alchemist, maybe Nausicaä aswell.
3.) When debating resorts to swearing and offering people out lol, that really mature.
This going to be my last post on the subject HURAH!, I don't see the point keep going on to someone who simply can't accept that he is in the wrong and ignoring his mistakes. We have to truly experience or understand something before we can judge it or we end up with genius like van goth not getting recognition they desvere when they were alive or be still jailing someone up simply because he is was gay.
Rui: Well I was talking more to fabricatedlunatic more than yourself, that why didn't reply to many of your comments.
Well some of my favorite characters akabane from get backers & Hisoka from hunter x hunter have certain camp / homesexual quality about them. The relationship between the two lead in getbackers is considered by quite a few a bit too homoerotic for people taste, personal I think its quite quite cute and affectionate.
I Must admit I probably would not read full on hardcore homoerotic material, because simply I am not that way incilnded. It would be like saying to homesexual that you must read a straight hardcore hentai, because frankly why would he want to read it when his sexual kick elsewhere. People don't watch pornography becuase of the storyline.
BUT I would not slag off whole genre because i didn't like a few titles from one magazine.
Its not only shonen jump he looking down on if you read on the first post page 4.
"Quote:
it the extra extremes of this and sexual content that raises a title from shonen to seinen.
And more complex plotting and characterization."
When I honest read claymore first time i honest though it was seienen manga. I think claymore has emotional kick that berserk has, clare had absolutely nothing until befriend by that claymore. Her life to seem to be on the up, until it all came crushing down on her. If that not devastating I don't know what is.
I don't see why you keep on defending someone else who;
1.) Considers a manga to be not worth reading solely on the magazine it released in, when you not even tempt to try it out.
2.) Later talk nonsense suggesting seienen manga having more complex plotting and characterization than shoenen manga, which frankly not always the case. I could name more example of complex shonen like patlabor, hack, Dr. Slump, Fullmetal Alchemist, maybe Nausicaä aswell.
3.) When debating resorts to swearing and offering people out lol, that really mature.
This going to be my last post on the subject HURAH!, I don't see the point keep going on to someone who simply can't accept that he is in the wrong and ignoring his mistakes. We have to truly experience or understand something before we can judge it or we end up with genius like van goth not getting recognition they desvere when they were alive or be still jailing someone up simply because he is was gay.
fabio de lunatico
Claymore
fabio de lunatico
Claymore
Awww, Geek's all right. You just cannot compare him to Dave. Hell, you cannot compare anyone to Dave. He's either five years old, a regular on a wind-up, or some kind of AI program.
Aion
Time-Traveller
Going back to the initial Berserk/Claymore comparisons, all I'm going to say is that, based on the content in the anime and the Berserk anime/manga I've read, Claymore could've passed as a seinen series. Berserk was always very easy to understand; the plot never became complex, and the only reason it's not suitable for SJ is the constant graphic slaughter and raping. Just because a series is considered adult doesn't automatically make it more complex than a series aimed at younger audiences. I mean, isn't Ai Yori Aoshi a seinin series? And, if it is, then it's surely only because of nudity.
If Death Note had more graphic deaths and people didn't mostly die just from plain old heart attacks I'm sure that could've been serialized elsewhere. The fact it has so much dialogue, no rape/sex scenes and not much in the way violent deaths worked against it. This is why I feel people who judge manga based on where it was serialized are wrong - you don't know what's under the cover until you look.
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More interestingly, I wonder who would win a debate - Dave or David (that's the name of The Geek, right?). A mod should threaten Dave with a ban if he refuses to create a thread attacking Evangelion.
And, for the record, I prefer Dave to The Geek. Dave may have ended up getting me banned but, out of all the people I've encountered on the net, The Geek is the person I dislike the most. Hate at first type.
If Death Note had more graphic deaths and people didn't mostly die just from plain old heart attacks I'm sure that could've been serialized elsewhere. The fact it has so much dialogue, no rape/sex scenes and not much in the way violent deaths worked against it. This is why I feel people who judge manga based on where it was serialized are wrong - you don't know what's under the cover until you look.
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More interestingly, I wonder who would win a debate - Dave or David (that's the name of The Geek, right?). A mod should threaten Dave with a ban if he refuses to create a thread attacking Evangelion.
And, for the record, I prefer Dave to The Geek. Dave may have ended up getting me banned but, out of all the people I've encountered on the net, The Geek is the person I dislike the most. Hate at first type.
fabio de lunatico
Claymore
It's this kind of thing that worries me. To me this sounds like the antithesis of enjoyable:
Ai Yori Aoshi is seinen probably because the protagonists are of college age and there are themes like arranged marriage and whatnot. From what I've heard (I've not seen it) it's not a typical harem show.
That's from Rossman, whose reviews are deliberately humourous, but he does fully explain (sometimes in too much detail) why he likes or dislikes something. And I've heard similar things in other reviews and forum threads - like this:
I have no tolerance for that stuff. NONE. And, really, I don't want another medieval adventure anime.
Ai Yori Aoshi is seinen probably because the protagonists are of college age and there are themes like arranged marriage and whatnot. From what I've heard (I've not seen it) it's not a typical harem show.
Aion
Time-Traveller
If you have problems with series where the hero gets stronger, beating 'bosses' he would've lost to against at the start, then even Berserk wouldn't be exempt from the type you'd have issues with.
Guts increases his strength over the course of the story, going from the boy you see in the flashbacks to someone who can beat his rival (who he lost to twice at the start), Zodd (who completely owned him at the start) and his rival in demonic form. Berserk is a story where the main character fights mini-bosses, powering up as he goes along, so if you're assuming Claymore would be bad because of that then you should assume the same about Berserk.
And, as for drawn out fights, the fights in Berserk aren't short. I read the first few volumes yesterday and was getting a little annoyed with how much time was spent on Guts simply slaughtering small-fry, and the 'boss' fights weren't exactly short.
I haven't read or watched Ai Yori but, from what I've seen when flicking through the volumes and fast forwarding, it's a typical harem type (with lots of bimbos fighting over the plain lead in comical fashion), just with nudity and a slightly more serious edge. It looked silly and rather unappealing - not what I'd expect from a an 'adult' series.
Guts increases his strength over the course of the story, going from the boy you see in the flashbacks to someone who can beat his rival (who he lost to twice at the start), Zodd (who completely owned him at the start) and his rival in demonic form. Berserk is a story where the main character fights mini-bosses, powering up as he goes along, so if you're assuming Claymore would be bad because of that then you should assume the same about Berserk.
And, as for drawn out fights, the fights in Berserk aren't short. I read the first few volumes yesterday and was getting a little annoyed with how much time was spent on Guts simply slaughtering small-fry, and the 'boss' fights weren't exactly short.
I haven't read or watched Ai Yori but, from what I've seen when flicking through the volumes and fast forwarding, it's a typical harem type (with lots of bimbos fighting over the plain lead in comical fashion), just with nudity and a slightly more serious edge. It looked silly and rather unappealing - not what I'd expect from a an 'adult' series.
fabio de lunatico
Claymore
Okay then, Berserk is ****. Total ****.
I'm still not interested in Claymore.
I'm still not interested in Claymore.
fabio de lunatico
Claymore
Heh. Well, I haven't even read much of Berserk. I've seen the anime, and how anyone can liken that to a shounen fighting show is beyond me. The structure is totally different; the character interaction - particularly the Guts/Griffith/Caska dynamic - is exceptional; the secondary cast are well-developed; the tone is consistently meanacing; the writing excellent; and I certainly don't remember it being a sucession of "boss fights", though it has been a while. That said, it's not even one of my absolute favourite shows, sooo...