Lucifer Call help!

it's rare to find someone who loves FF8 as much as myself :) , i honestly think people don't give it a chance and just listen to what others say.

**** i've been dreading isamu's demon, from the start he just has that aura that screams 'goin down', any tips on what demons would be good to bring into the fight? and should i handle 3rd kalpa before fighting him?

man i love the assembly of nilho except that bastard kaiwan haha, it was one of the more shorter funner dungeons in the game i've played, hate the tunnel dungeon that follows though :p , did you have a hard time with thor or anything?
 
Don't worry its not a fight you have to worry about yet :wink: its part of the final dugeon (you may be able to circumvent the fight by joing Isamu's reason but i don't know since i did True Demon last time)

Well I was able to beat the Trials easily enough even if it did make me think "Crap i've got no guys with any Ice magic whatsoever" but other then that all went down without any trouble :) I would do the third Kalpha now just to get it out of the way since its really only the Dante boss fight
 
ah phew thats a load off then, don't think i will submit to Isamu's reason though because to me his reason has always sort of been just about him really, i think chiaki's reason is the worst though, her logic reminds me of knives from trigun 'kill the spiders to save the butterflys', you may think i'm weird but out of all the reasons i've seen so far i agree with hikawa's the most, even though the guy is ****** up his reason to me seems the best that would work out for everyone.

Ah okay i will get try and do the third kalpa tomorrow, sort of dreading having to fight the harlot and trumpeter though haha, thats good then, i remember thor being a real bastard on my first playthrough, i got hammered by him so many times :p
 
That was the thing that got me about the reasons, i didn't want any of them :p They were nicely varied though and it made me wonder what things would be like if the world was like that. Although i got the joy of smashing their reasons to bits :twisted:

The final fiends aren't that bad, i'm guessing you've beaten the Riders to death :p Although the final levels of the Kalpha are the worse in terms of bosses, not only have you got Metatron to look forward to you'll have three other angels, Beezlebub (both forms).

Thor wasn't much a problem when you have a nice Raiju that drains electric :wink: Can't wait to get further on in the game, i want to re-discover all i've forgotten.
 
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hahaha, do the manifestations of their reasons look good? the whole reason idea does add a new level of depth to the game.

Yeah the riders where quite annoying, but i got through it in the end :p , ah **** not beezlebub! ah **** he is a nightmare in every SMT game he is in, any tips for when i do go up against him?

Ah of course! i totally forgot you had him, that fight must have been a cakewalk then haha, this game is so much better now that i can appreciate it more being older, can't wait to replay it after so long :D
 
to be fair, Isamu's reason demon looked a bit silly, Hikawa's didn't look too bad, and i can't remember fully what Chiaki's looked like so i can't comment. Thinking about it have you heard about who the boss is at the end of the game (assuming you don't go True Demon)

He's a bit of a git yeah, you fight both his forms in the same battle i think. As for tips i'll have to get back to you on that one :p

Lol plus my trainning sessions in the first Kalpha helped, ran around on the 3rd floor for a while. Just got to wait till i beat Hell Biker before i can continue to train up, plus i should probably think about fusing some more of my demons, since my Uzume has mana refilll i should think about passing that skill on.

I think if my younger self had played this game, i'm not sure what i would of thought of it, so i think i played it at the right time :)
 
ah okay then, still i look forward to seeing them :) and no i havent heard about who the final boss is if you don't go the true demon path, is it something you wouldn't expect?

both forms in the same battle?! **** this gets worse by the second, PLEASE GET BACK TO ME hahaha :lol:

i should have done that myself, when i was upto that bit i grinded on the enemies outside the mantra HQ until i hit lv.28, took about an hour and half, i have been abusing the mantra refill skill on all my demns ever since uzume learned it, getting that skill so early on in the game is a huge help and is it just me or is daijosou the ultimate when it comes to buffing/healing ( prayer + meditate nearly feels like cheating)
 
Lol well you can get a glimpse of the final boss every time you look in the sky in the game :wink:

I love Mana Refill it makes life refill meaningless really :p daijosou is handy like, but i used my first deathstone in order to get Matador for the 2nd Fiend battle (i bet daijosou was gutted when he couldn't cast mudo on Matador :p) He's come in handy, plus he's got Dark Might so he's lethal every New Kagsutchi.
 
mega late reply, but it was my friend's 18th the other day so went out with him and then the next day i used to recover haha :p

holy **** honestly that would be the last thing i would even expect to be the final boss, i never even thought twice about that thing but **** thats what i'm actually gonna end up fighting?

i still need to fuse a matador, but for every fiend battles, my team is primarily comprised of fiends haha so half of the attacks just bounce off and waste the enemy turns :lol: , dark might is just amazing, i have it on my red rider and always make sure to go into boss battles on a new moon, it's just so great to abuse :p

On and update though, i finished the amala temple and have finished all the fiend fights and the 3rd kalpa, the game of hide and seek with dante was surprisngly fun in a sadistic throw your pad way haha, but i was surprised that he was quite the pushover when i fought him but maybe that was because i had the harlot in my team and phys repel just left him no corner :D

the trumpeter on the other hand was a bastard to say the least, i think i honestly only beat him by luck in the end, as towards the end of the fight i somehow kept gaining criticals and eventually it just stopped him before he could blow his ******* trumpet again :evil: , now i want to try and fuse him though, is he a good demon to fuse?
 
Hah lol its okay :p

Trumpeter is useful in a fight i'll put it that way :)

Yeah Kagasutchi awaits you as the games normal final boss and he has two forms

Currently i'm about to beat Mizuchi in the prison, haven't had much time to play over the weekend, but i've got the second kalpha open so soon i'll begin Rider hunting :p
 
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awesome then, i definitely will fuse him next time i play on it, any idea what his base level is though?

2 forms eh, how is the design for them and how hard would you say they are?

i remember when i fought him the first time and my wallet was feeling the pain rather than my party :lol: , i was so unprepared. Speaking of the second kalpa, the cursed zone in there is just too tempting for the sheer ammount of EXP you can get from 1 fight but it drove me nuts earlier on because i had riberma in effect so reinforcements would keep coming, but they wouldn't ******* stop and in the end after like 6 waves my main got wiped out due to ****** 'retaliate', a harsh reminder that i'm playing an SMT game haha :lol:

i loved the fiend battles much more that i expected i would, it feels so good when you destroy them :)

also what is your current party now? right now my party is:

red rider
nyx
the harlot
 
I think his base level is mid to high level 70s. As for the end boss his first form is pretty much as he is now, a giant orb of light, his second form reveals a face that has been used on earlier SMT games and in those he is the final boss, normally he's used to represent God

I shouldn't have much trouble with Mizuchi especially if he's anything like my hell biker battle. my friend uses Ribernma a lot, i've only just got that skill and keep forgetting to use it lol

Currently my party is:

Matador
Uzume
Aarabkai although i know have some more demons who need trainning and i'm going to fuse Uzume away soon enough
 
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i'm pretty interested to see what the face resembles then, will get there eventually.

Riberma helps me loads if i am in need of EXP, but sometimes i am thinking 'christ when will they stop coming i just want the battle to end' if it gets out of control with the reinforcements, i mean once you die just think how much EXP you just lost haha.

pretty nice party, what are you fusing uzume away for?

on an update on my side, i got a lot accomplished today, i managed to finish the amala labyrinth so i am on my way to the TDE, beezlebub was a ******* nightmare to put it bluntly :p , maybe i was just unprepared but it took forever to take him down and i was so close to death many a time throughout.

Metatron was hard but i found nowhere near as hard as beezlebub since he didn't abuse dekaja/nda, i would really like to fuse both of them but it seems really complicated in order to do it, any advice? oh and also do you happen to know any demons that i could sacrifice in order to give another demon the skill debilitate? i want to try and give it to that awesome lv 80 pixie (as you said was well worth the wait)

and lastly i finished the kimon shrine but do i have to master all the magatama in order to gain access to the other palce he spoke about before he died?
 
hah lol although i died for the second time this save today, i was in the second kapha going through the cursed zone, and i was doing my best to avoid battles, but an enemy got to go first. I wasn't amused. :p

Well i beat the snake, he didn't like it that most of my part was void to his attacks. As for what uzume is going to become i'm not sure yet probably someone who has mediarama that way coupled with mana refill i'll have a nice thing going on.

Nice work on beating those guys :) did you get the powered up pixie? all that remains now for you is to get to the tower of Kagasutchi. :p

Now that you said that i'm not sure i think you may just have to master all of them (all the current ones so far at least) before you can do anything else.

Oh and this is your friend when it comes to fusing demons, use it well :)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/582958/35110
 
i feel your pain all too well, the same thing happened to me in the cursed zone of the 2nd kalpa once an then to add insult to injury, i got through and got the 250K and then got into a battle and the game just froze...i thought **** that ordeal off again haha :lol:

good to hear you got past the sname easy enough, is the tower of kagasutchi longer than the final dungeon in the first DDS game? and yeah i got the powered up pixie, i want to try and fuse debilitate onto it though, i have it on my nyx but when it comes to bosses i rarely ever bring nyx into the boss fights.

thanks a lot for the fusion chart :D
 
Yeah it was annoying especially since i wandered into that part of the second kalpha by accident :p The game has froze once on me before during the second Fiend battle, that was fun to say the least especially since he was almost dead. :lol:

I can't remember now, its long though, but maybe same length to the one in DDS. Metatron has Debiltate ;) If you fuse him you'll have a powerful force on your side, plus i like the fact he looks like a mech :lol:

Don't worry about it :) That chart came in handy a lot of times for me, it even has the evolution list
 
i am trying to fuse a metatron right now but i have no idea how to get an uriel, according to that fusion chart it says he can onyl be got from either something evolving or captured, but i have no idea what evolves into him, can you remember?

Also is black frost a special fusion? it says on that chart he isn't but i can't seem to be able to fuse him :?

Anyway as for an update, i am now pretty near the end i think, i just beat thor for the 2nd time and went to the bando shrine and got the masakado's magatama which feels like cheating haha :lol: , i havent found this tower nowhere near as bad as the final tower in DDS1, that place annoyed me to no end with all the teleporting rooms :p Noah was annoying but not to tough once i learnt his pattern, Ahirman was just a pushover, how the hell does he think he can stand a chance without the ability to counter de-buffs :p

Right now i am just training my guys before climbing further up the tower, right now i am level 90 and my team are in the 80's.
 
nice :) to get Uriel you need to evolve a Throne demon. Not too sure on black frost though. Which ending are heading towards btw? I found out there is 6 different ones.

Personal progress, i'm now level 43 and i've beaten the first of the riders and i'm at the manakin city. Trying to get a Hell Biker as well.
 
ah thanks a lot am gonna get on that right now! :D

the ending i'm heading for is the true demon ending, i may have gave myself a really hard task there but if i can get a metatron i think i can survive, what ending are you going for on this run through?

man that takes me back, when that town isn't overrun by monsters it felt like the only safe haven in the game haha, i loved hell biker in the beginning, the fact he gets attack all early on is a huge help and plus hsi immunites are amazing.
 
Hmm...i'm unsure on the endings still, i know i won't be doing Isamu's ending for definite :p i think he's a jerk for his reaction in the prison.

I think i'll go after the next rider and then i may level up using some of the magatama i got now, its been such a joy to replay this game, even if its not a new save+

I'm still unsure if i should go through the tombstone challange or not, the extra half turn may come in handy
 
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