ayase said:
Hey Outlawstar, Spyro.
I agree there is a hell of a lot more going on under the surface of governance that the average person never thinks about or questions, and I have previously looked into a lot of 'conspiracy theories', but came to the conclusion that although there have been isolated conspiracies by powerful people of the time (Organised Crime, Industry, Secret Services, Media - and sometimes several of these working together) I've never found any hard evidence to support overarching conspiracies lasting for any longer than a few decades.
You quote Disraeli there Outlawstar, who was an ardent Imperialist. My question on the supposed long-term 'New World Order' conspiracy is this: Why would proponents of a World Government allow something as close to their dream as the British Empire to fall apart? America could easily have prevented it from doing so after World War II, but chose to let it disintegrate. They chose even to undermine it utterly when they forced a cease-fire on Britain, Israel, and France at Suez. Those are not the actions of a nation interested in building a World Government. Those are the actions of an entirely self-interested nation. Even if there are people working behind the scenes to achieve it, I wish they'd hurry it up. A World State is a great idea. Plenty of decent people have been proponents of World Government (H. G. Wells for one) and I can't possibly see it being a bad thing for most people on this planet. It would sort out a hell of a lot of our problems.
Society, I think, is the way it is because a small minority are more intelligent than the vast majority, and some of these same intelligent people are ruthless bastards willing to do anything to hold onto power and wealth. They claw their way to, then stay at the top like the Bush family, Rupert Murdoch, etc. but it doesn't last forever. Eventually their descendants give birth to stupid children or squander their fortunes and other, similarly inclined people take their place. That's just how it it. Survival of the most fortunate, most ruthless, most selfish, most manipulative. It's a horrible truth, but I'm pretty convinced that it is The Truth - and that it isn't really any more complicated than that.
Ayase you bring up some good points and I would like to answer you more fully tomorow when Im less half asleep,
However I dare say you need to do a lot more reserch if thats the conclusion you came to in terms of length of collusion, just look at the Federal Reserve System, probably the biggest scam and fraud in history, and its still goionng strong, most people dont even realise its not even part of the government, federal is just a proxy monicker, nothing more.
They are completely and utterly corrupt and this is one of the main ways in which the bankers and "intellectualy elites" as they like to call themselves easily control economies, infaltion, depression etc.
Id advise you read some book on the subject bro
As for the British Empire, all I can say is more research will help out here, the British Empire was a completely seperate faction of such orders of which we speak, it was the Bavarian Illuminati under Adam Weishaput who orchestrated the downfall of the British Empire for their own world reaching plans, and every war andn revolution since, this is not a cut and dried thing in which one group is involved, as deeper research will alert you to.
And what you have yo understand about your last statement on society is that while it is disturbinngly accurate how you have laid it out, its not neccesarily the way things simply are, knowledge is power, and although it can seem hopeless, self soveirgnty through awareness is a step in the right direction.
Its just not as cut and dried as powerful people clawing to the top like Bush as you say, Bush is a member of a secret society called teh skull and bones and so was his running mate carrey, and his father, and his father before, anyone who really thinks democracy still exists needs a swift history lesson into ancient royalty, royal bloodlinnes, and social darwinistic elites with delusions of grandeur.
There is method to this madness, that I am sure of.
Also if you really think a One World Governments run as it will inevitably be by the likes of the puppets we have inn charge, than I completely unsmugly think you would benefit from more research, these are the people that keep Africa and other third World countries in debt, never allowinng them to rise up by design, perpetrating the Global Wrming hoax as another reason for the third world to STAY that way, , who have carried out THOUSANDS of illegal testing of killer chemiicals over unsuspecting populatins, like the illegal human uranium testing durinng the infamous Manhatton Project, or Project Shad, along with a host of others, the people who created Operation Northwoods, the people who knew about pearl harbour before it happened but let it happen, and thats just the half of it, you really want people like that running a world government, I DONT THINK SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
