Kyousogiga Anime Online

[Genkina Hito]

For anybody interested in free anime here’s some great news: the full 25-minute anime of Kyousogiga is online and ready for viewing.



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Synopsis

The story takes place in a mirror world version of Kyoto where humans and spirits are thrown together. An incident causes a young girl named Koto to wander into this world where she meets a mysterious monk, gets chased by tech-obsessed girls and uncovers a mysterious plot.

Koto will be voiced by Rie Kugimiya (Fairy Tale, Burn Up Scramble, Fullmetal Alchemist) with support from Aya Hisakawa (Fruits Basket, Ah! My Goddess, Azumanga Daioh, Dragonball Z) and Kenichi Suzumura (D.Gray-Man, Noein).

Kyousogiga is a Toei/Banpresto co-production that is available via YouTube, NicoNico Douga and Bandai Channel in Japanese without subtitles. The story comes from Izumi Todo (Toei’s pen name for its production team) the director is Rie Matsumoto who has worked on Marie & Gali, music comes from Hiroshi Takaki who has provided the music and opening themes for Sky Girls and Tytania.

<a href="http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2011/12/10-1/video-kyousogiga-anime-project-now-online">Source</a>

 

[alexrose1uk]

No subs/translation included unfortunately or I'd give it a watch.

 

[Zin5ki]

…where humans and spirits are thrown together

I'm glad I chose not to attend the Christmas party at work this year.

 

[Paradox295]

No subs/translation included unfortunately or I'd give it a watch.

It's actually a pretty cool OVA. I'm hoping it gets made into a series or something. Since the plot on this was kinda hard to follow, since it was only 1 episode.

 

[Rui]

Please don't do that, Paradox295 -_- I edited it out so I could refer to it but in future I'll just delete the whole post.

R

 

[Paradox295]

Please don't do that, Paradox295 -_- I edited it out so I could refer to it but in future I'll just delete the whole post.

R

That's exactly why I did it. Because you would have deleted it. =/

If you can provide a legal way of watching it subbed, then please, by all means tell us. Until then, you're gonna have to download the version which is simply just subtitles added to a freely available YouTube video.

Or, you could just not watch it it all, therefore you won't know how awesome it is, which means less people will know about it, which means it's unlikely to get a series, which rules out the possibility of them making money off my purchase of said series.

 

[mangaman74]

Please don't do that, Paradox295 -_- I edited it out so I could refer to it but in future I'll just delete the whole post.

R

That's exactly why I did it. Because you would have deleted it. =/

If you can provide a legal way of watching it subbed, then please, by all means tell us. Until then, you're gonna have to download the version which is simply just subtitles added to a freely available YouTube video.

Or, you could just not watch it it all, therefore you won't know how awesome it is, which means less people will know about it, which means it's unlikely to get a series, which rules out the possibility of them making money off my purchase of said series.

That's what I'll be doing. If I can't watch it legally then I don't see the point in bothering.

 

[Paradox295]

Please don't do that, Paradox295 -_- I edited it out so I could refer to it but in future I'll just delete the whole post.

R

That's exactly why I did it. Because you would have deleted it. =/

If you can provide a legal way of watching it subbed, then please, by all means tell us. Until then, you're gonna have to download the version which is simply just subtitles added to a freely available YouTube video.

Or, you could just not watch it it all, therefore you won't know how awesome it is, which means less people will know about it, which means it's unlikely to get a series, which rules out the possibility of them making money off my purchase of said series.

That's what I'll be doing. If I can't watch it legally then I don't see the point in bothering.

....seriously? =/

 

[mangaman74]

Please don't do that, Paradox295 -_- I edited it out so I could refer to it but in future I'll just delete the whole post.

R

That's exactly why I did it. Because you would have deleted it. =/

If you can provide a legal way of watching it subbed, then please, by all means tell us. Until then, you're gonna have to download the version which is simply just subtitles added to a freely available YouTube video.

Or, you could just not watch it it all, therefore you won't know how awesome it is, which means less people will know about it, which means it's unlikely to get a series, which rules out the possibility of them making money off my purchase of said series.

That's what I'll be doing. If I can't watch it legally then I don't see the point in bothering.

....seriously? =/

I have enough anime dvds & blu-rays to watch without seaching for illegal anime downloads. I rarely watch anime online anyway without resorting to illegal sources.

 

[Paradox295]

Please don't do that, Paradox295 -_- I edited it out so I could refer to it but in future I'll just delete the whole post.

R

That's exactly why I did it. Because you would have deleted it. =/

If you can provide a legal way of watching it subbed, then please, by all means tell us. Until then, you're gonna have to download the version which is simply just subtitles added to a freely available YouTube video.

Or, you could just not watch it it all, therefore you won't know how awesome it is, which means less people will know about it, which means it's unlikely to get a series, which rules out the possibility of them making money off my purchase of said series.

That's what I'll be doing. If I can't watch it legally then I don't see the point in bothering.

....seriously? =/

I have enough anime dvds & blu-rays to watch without seaching for illegal anime downloads. I rarely watch anime online anyway without resorting to illegal sources.

If you choose to see quantity over quality, maybe.

But I really liked this OVA. I think it has potential to be a great series or movie.

Unfortunately, that won't happen unless we build up hype about it.

 

[mangaman74]

Please don't do that, Paradox295 -_- I edited it out so I could refer to it but in future I'll just delete the whole post.

R

That's exactly why I did it. Because you would have deleted it. =/

If you can provide a legal way of watching it subbed, then please, by all means tell us. Until then, you're gonna have to download the version which is simply just subtitles added to a freely available YouTube video.

Or, you could just not watch it it all, therefore you won't know how awesome it is, which means less people will know about it, which means it's unlikely to get a series, which rules out the possibility of them making money off my purchase of said series.

That's what I'll be doing. If I can't watch it legally then I don't see the point in bothering.

....seriously? =/

I have enough anime dvds & blu-rays to watch without seaching for illegal anime downloads. I rarely watch anime online anyway without resorting to illegal sources.

If you choose to see quantity over quality, maybe.

But I really liked this OVA. I think it has potential to be a great series or movie.

Unfortunately, that won't happen unless we build up hype about it.

Okay, you hype it and I'll buy the blu-ray if/when it gets released.

 

[Paradox295]

Okay, you hype it and I'll buy the blu-ray if/when it gets released.

Sure. But that's the kind of attitude that makes the hype pointless.

 

[Rui]

I am with mangaman74 on this. If anything will get it made into a series, it will be a lot of hits on its legitimate means of distribution, or a lot of interest from its core (Japanese) fanbase. Distributing an illegal version with subtitles won't achieve much other than instant gratification for people less interested in owning a copy.

Anyway, the site rules are rules for a reason, please don't ignore them. There are plenty of sites out there which do tolerate that kind of thing; this isn't one of them.

R

 

[MaxonTreik]

Distributing an illegal version with subtitles won't achieve much other than instant gratification for people less interested in owning a copy.

R

Right, like the time I watched fansubs of FMP, GaoGaiGar and Slayers, and actually bought them later? :roll:

 

[Rui]

Your purchases won't have fuelled the original licence decisions in the slightest, though (unless your Slayers fansubs were VHS fansubs...even then, they wouldn't have, but Slayers had been a success in the US for a long time before digital copies became popular). It's great that for some people, seeing a show online with subs leads to a sale, but in the vast majority of cases it never will, and it's money that talks when productions are being considered.

A campaign to get an English subtitled version up legally on one of the channels linked would be much more impressive, though. Or even chatting to our local companies like AoD, who might have connections.

R

 

[Paradox295]

Distributing an illegal version with subtitles won't achieve much other than instant gratification for people less interested in owning a copy.

R

Right, like the time I watched fansubs of FMP, GaoGaiGar and Slayers, and actually bought them later? :roll:

Or last month when I started watching downloaded copies of Buffy, then spent £60 on all the DVDs and watched those instead?

Your purchases won't have fuelled the original licence decisions in the slightest, though (unless your Slayers fansubs were VHS fansubs...even then, they wouldn't have, but Slayers had been a success in the US for a long time before digital copies became popular). It's great that for some people, seeing a show online with subs leads to a sale, but in the vast majority of cases it never will, and it's money that talks when productions are being considered.

A campaign to get an English subtitled version up legally on one of the channels linked would be much more impressive, though. Or even chatting to our local companies like AoD, who might have connections.

R

No, I'm pretty sure the fact that a show has already built up popularity through fansubs is a major factor in licensing.

 

[MaxonTreik]

Your purchases won't have fuelled the original licence decisions in the slightest, though (unless your Slayers fansubs were VHS fansubs...even then, they wouldn't have, but Slayers had been a success in the US for a long time before digital copies became popular). It's great that for some people, seeing a show online with subs leads to a sale, but in the vast majority of cases it never will, and it's money that talks when productions are being considered.

R

What does success have to do with it? You said people won't be interested in buying copies when downloading fansubs and I proved you wrong. Stop trying to bring up unnecessary things to derail my point. Are you going to actually prove your "but in the vast majority of cases it never will" thought or just speculate like you've been doing for the rest of the thread?

 

[alexrose1uk]

It's great that for some people, seeing a show online with subs leads to a sale, but in the vast majority of cases it never will,

I have to admit I fall into the minority bracket here then. I've always been of the mindset if I see or hear something and really lilke it, that I want to try and support it. I first saw probably half the shows which now fill my shelving before I bought them, and bought them BECAUSE I had liked them. In this sense Lovefilm is also no better as its minimal copies with many people seeing them; yet looking at the rating, thousands of Lovefilm viewers seem to have rented out anime. Some of them, like me, have probably bought some of them after.

In many ways it's no different to watching Ghibli films on Film4 right now, which many of us are doing; the viewing figures will have minimum if NO impact directly on Ghibli, yet some people who sit down and watch them, or watch them with someone else who wanted to watch them, may decide to buy them if they like them.

So many great shows aren't available in this country unless you download a fansub, or import from the states/outside our license region (which is a grey area in itself!) that I don't think, with this market, its surprising that sometimes fansubs CAN equal sales.

Beck, Kanon 06 and Spice and Wolf are good examples. All favourites of mine that I own. Are they available in the UK legally without importing? Nope. Additionally as I stated elsewhere, as I'm an afficiando I'd probably buy a UK release of Spice and Wolf as well as the other copies I already have. Where did I see Spice and Wolf first? Fansub.

I ended up buying them BECAUSE of those of those subs, I couldnt have walked into a shop here and just picked them out of interest.
This subject is teetering a little close to areas we're not really allowed to talk about on here, but one thing I think must be said is that, that one steam/fansub view doesn't always mean one lost sale. Sometimes it could simply be seen as advertising.

There was quite an interesting article from I believe it might have been the Guardian, or one of the other, more respectable newspapers a while back (which had been compiled with evidence) which actually suggested that, at least in the music market, the people typically pirating the most music, were also the people who ALSO BOUGHT the most music

I wouldn't be at all surprised if theres an element of it in this market too.

 

[Rui]

I thought that for most of this thread I was busy being annoyed about the forum rules being broken to promote illegal activity; I have heard all the pro-digisub arguments and I also know that disliking it is an impossible position to argue when there's no obvious downside to it for the people benefiting.

I have a dream where we actually get catered for by the legit companies one day, which bypassing them for quick gratification often ruins. Apologies for the stray comments from this idealistic fool.

R

 

[alexrose1uk]

No, I understand, in a perfect world I'd be sitting here happy as Larry with my legitimate, UK copies of Spice and Wolf and many other series, but unfortunately that's not possible.

As it stands, we enjoy a relatively niche hobby, where even a lot of our legitimate purchases are actually grey imports, and I think until we enter into one world regional market that's never going to go away, although being considered part of the US licensing market would probably help, and there's always going to be people who pick up stuff out of interest, but never had any intent of buying it in the first place (people for whom a download isn't a lost sale, as they would not have purchased it anyway, the same people whom if they couldn't have got it free just wouldn't have bothered with it).
As it stands, when you have an option of not being able to watch something as its simply not available, or watching a fansub, I'm not entirely surprised at the response, and I'm sure some of those fans then buy the series later.

I do wonder if some (or how many as may be more appropriate) of the series that are financially successful once licensed in the west, became successful outside of Japan BECAUSE of the fansub environment introducing people to the material. I can't see that many of the fans of Key's anime having played the original VN's in Japanese for example.