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How do new anime fans get into the medium?

Discussion in 'General Anime Chit-Chat' started by Just Passing Through, Feb 9, 2017.

  1. cudwieser

    cudwieser Student Council President

    Wasn't me [he says looking at his copy of Plastic Little] :oops: :D
    Seriously though Plastic Little is a nice little gem. Hardly the best anime you'll see but still a well done romp with great animation, characters and a decent story.

    As for Neo It was D'Gray Man. If you still have a copy of the issue it was the first of the reader reviews in the section. :)
     
  2. Neil.T

    Neil.T Great Teacher

    [Cough] Realistic boob physics. [Ahem] ;)

    Damn. I don't have that issue, unfortunately. The first one I bought was issue 88 (with K-On on the cover). It's fun to get something printed in NEO, isn't it? :)

    Thinking about Kenichi Sonoda again, I wonder just how many people globally got into anime as a direct result of seeing his artwork in some form. For me, Sonoda has got to be one of the most important creatives in terms of first establishing anime among Western audiences, alongside Katsuhiro Otomo and Masamune Shirow.
     
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  3. cudwieser

    cudwieser Student Council President

    It gives me a little buzz to know that every so often my voice will be heard. :)

    Putting my ego away :oops: :) you ask a good question about sonoda being the conduit through which some have gotten into anime. His works were inspired by Hollywood films and his love of cars, guns and other american (western) cultures. It made his works somewhat more palletable to western audiences. Saying that, imo, those that knew sonoda would more likely be those with a more dedicated access like Satellite TV. The more terrestrial among us were likely introduced with Akira, Fist of the North Star and Cyber City, Tokyo Babylon, Overfiend or Black Magic (remember that name) if you're old enough. Younger fans likely started with the cinema releases of Ghost in the Shell (written by the same guy who wrote and produced Black Magic) and eventually NGE when they started to grasp what anime was about.

    P.S Seeing as you mentioned Otomo, you might want to consider Kon, not only their individual works, but a unique anime Otomo wrote and Kon cut his teeth on, Roujin Z
     
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  4. Neil.T

    Neil.T Great Teacher

    And the best example of that is Gunsmith Cats. ;)

    I cannot even tell you how how much of a fan of the late great Satoshi Kon I am. If I hadn't already been a fan of anime when I first encountered Paprika, that would've done it.

    The full extent of what Kon would've brought to anime as a medium, given another 10 or even 20 years, we will now never know.

    God rest his soul.
     
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  5. ayase

    ayase Mushi-shi

    Not to make you feel old or anything cudwieser, but I think most younger fans of anime these days probably weren't even born when GitS was in cinemas the first time...

    It is interesting to observe how what gets people interested in anime seems to have really changed over time - Not to generalise, but while a lot of older fans seem to have been attracted by the more western flavoured sci-fi/cyberpunk films and shows of the 80s and 90s (even if they don't necessarily stay for that content and find other genres in the medium they enjoy equally as much - That certainly happened with me) a lot of younger fans seem much more into the more distinctly Japanese magical / supernatural highschoolers stuff that's been very popular for the last decade or so. Though I may be underestimating the number of people who still get into anime through Shonen Fighting Show With 9 Million Episodes X™.
     
  6. qaiz

    qaiz Thousand Master

    You don't get into anime, anime gets into you.
     
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  7. cudwieser

    cudwieser Student Council President


    It's not necessarily that we got into more western anime (I doubt the intent in the beginning was to cater to us) it was simply Western channels catering for western audiences with stories they knew we'd understand. With the indroduction of more open media like the net, audiences weren't watching 'Diluted' content (remember that word and track down the original Cartoon Network episodes of Naruto). Most of us old timers (I take no shame in it. I'm 32 now don't you know :p :D) simply found something interesting and persued it, ultimetly finding out that it was Japanese and loving it (well not despising it). The Fact that Sonoda's works were western inspired only helped him (and thank god it did). The truth is GITS was maybe the first truly 'westernised' anime film (Akira IIRC wasn't meant for the west per se, but was accepted for it's then (and still) technical mastery of the art and very unique story) as it was maybe the first to gain a universal release and acceptance. After that Ghibli blew the doors of Disney with Spirited Away.

    What caused western audiences to baulk were Japanese Values (Overfiend again). We are still suffering that stigma (not Helped by Excel Saga and Puni Puni Poemy which is an absolute must see by any western anime fan). What I've oberved of the younger audiernce is the Tenchi Effect (Tenchi Muyo). That is the breeding on watered down 'westernised' anime on Cartoon Network. It isn't that the younger were any more introduced to 'Japanese' anime than the older generations because of watered down versions. With the net (and Youtube and Piracy, yes Piracy) those that watched or wanted Naruto quickly found out that anime was much more in depth and bigger than the watered down rubbish we were being given. All I'll say is watch Excel Saga and Puni Puni Poemy if you want some idea of what the Japanese watch and think we want to watch (bear in mind much truth is said in jest). Also check the Puni Puni Peomy trailer on Youtube before watching the full movie. It will save your ass a lot of therapy.

    P.S You're probably right about the younger fan being born post GITS. I make no bones about being as old as I am as I'm far from the oldest. Speed Racer was out in the west in the 70's/80's (as was Astro Boy under the guise of the Mighty Atom), but it does raise an interesting question. There is a generation (relative term) before me and at lest one after. It seems there is now a forth is starting. With that I ask (as I've asked before) what was your seminal anime? Some it was Astro Boy (60's/70's) or Speed Racer (70's/Early 80's). Some it was Akira (80's/Early 90's) or Fist of the North Star (Early 90's). After that was Ghost in the Shell (1995), Cowboy Bebop (1998) or Neon Genesis Evangelion (1995). Now what are anime fans starting their advebture with?
     
  8. ravenwood7040

    ravenwood7040 Completely Average High School Student

    Well, for me, the first time I watched an anime knowing what it was was Kill la Kill. At the time, I had watched finished Avatar: The Last Airbender, and Season 4 of Korra was just about to start up. I was interested in watching another animated show with a character like Korra in it, and I figured anime was probably going to be my best bet for something like that, so I poked around Netflix and ended up watching Kill la Kill over 3 days. I suspect thats probably not a typical experience though...
     
  9. Zin5ki

    Zin5ki Railgun

    Quite so! It is often a matter of circumstance, that is to say, being in the right/wrong place at the right/wrong time (delete where applicable).
     
  10. Neil.T

    Neil.T Great Teacher

    Things sure have moved on since the early days of anime in the UK. Here's a quote lifted directly from a little catalogue that came with some of Manga Video's VHS tape releases. Of the benefits of joining their membership club, it says:
    "Street cred"?! How very '90s. :p
     
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  11. Neil.T

    Neil.T Great Teacher

    Double-post, I know, but I should've mentioned for the sake of our younger users that "street cred" was how your social standing used to be measured in the days before Facebook "likes". :p
     
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  12. cudwieser

    cudwieser Student Council President

    In the days we used to socialise. God they were awkward moments ;) :D
     
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  13. Neil.T

    Neil.T Great Teacher

    Speak for yourself, dude! :p ;)
     
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