Hollywood Studio wanted to axe Ryuk from Death Note?

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Joshawott

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Guys, I think Akira's Neo Manhatten is looking a lot nicer than what Hollywood apparently tried to do with the Death Note live-action movie, as Anime News Network reports.

According to director Shane Black, the studio [Warner Bros.] initially wanted to remove Ryuk and didn't want Light to be evil.

So wait, they wanted a film where Light just killed the criminals and everyone was okay with his idea of justice? Would have y'know, defeated the whole freakin' point of the franchise and L's involvement. Glad the director put his foot down with Light...but no mention of Ryuk?
 
animefreak17 said:
thank you Hollywood for hurting a great series again
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Except if their plans go through, it wouldn't be "hurting" it would be outright killing. It would be like they removed the Dragonballs from Dragonball Evolution (at least they kept those...right? 9.9).
 
Joshawott said:
animefreak17 said:
thank you Hollywood for hurting a great series again
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Except if their plans go through, it wouldn't be "hurting" it would be outright killing. It would be like they removed the Dragonballs from Dragonball Evolution (at least they kept those...right? 9.9).
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yeah but shenlong looks terrible and the dragonball z wasn't created by kami in the movie

the ape form isn't giant
krillen isn't in it
goku,s in school

i could make a 10 mile list

Hollywood isn't for anime
 
Yeah, obviously Dragonball Evolution was an epic fail (it wasn't only a bad adaptation, it was a bad movie), but at least it kept the core premise - the dragon balls.

If they remove Ryuk and Light's downward spiral from Death Note though?
 
They will Probably replace Ryuk with like a Leprechaun like that one from The Flintsones or The Simpsons (definitley one of those two I Think) or possibly a Looney Tunes Character because Ryuk is apparently too evil even though he is just a bystander mainly throughout the whole series.

...and how can you make a Mass Murderer NOT EVIL! I mean that must be one of the big laws of story making broken already, don't make the mass-murderers out to be the good guy.

Story Making gone wrong there folks.
 
TheLasersharkKH said:
They will Probably replace Ryuk with like a Leprechaun like that one from The Flintsones or The Simpsons (definitley one of those two I Think) or possibly a Looney Tunes Character because Ryuk is apparently too evil even though he is just a bystander mainly throughout the whole series.

...and how can you make a Mass Murderer NOT EVIL! I mean that must be one of the big laws of story making broken already, don't make the mass-murderers out to be the good guy.

Story Making gone wrong there folks.
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Maybe one of the companies financing the movie is one that campaigns for the death penalty to be eligible in every state or something?
 
I understand the fan rage but I have to say... losing Ryuk wouldn't impact the film much. I mean they obviously should NOT do that, but if you look at him purely as what he brings to the story, he actually adds very little, he explains the Death Note and helps Light look for cameras but that's more or less it.

However, he is a great character and he does kick off the events that start the series and those that end it, but if you look at it objectively in terms of what can and cannot be cut from the movie to make it a reasonable length, then it's easy to see how the movie could still work without him. Wouldn't be a true adaptation or as good, but it would still work, provided the central fall of Light and mind game themes remained.

edit: before anyone starts the death threats, I'm just playing devil's advocate here :p
 
Sparrowsabre7 said:
I understand the fan rage but I have to say... losing Ryuk wouldn't impact the film much. I mean they obviously should NOT do that, but if you look at him purely as what he brings to the story, he actually adds very little, he explains the Death Note and helps Light look for cameras but that's more or less it.

However, he is a great character and he does kick off the events that start the series and those that end it, but if you look at it objectively in terms of what can and cannot be cut from the movie to make it a reasonable length, then it's easy to see how the movie could still work without him. Wouldn't be a true adaptation or as good, but it would still work, provided the central fall of Light and mind game themes remained.

edit: before anyone starts the death threats, I'm just playing devil's advocate here :p
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The most essential thing is Ryuk giving Light the Death Note in the first place.

Aside from that though, the rules written in the Death Note give most of the exposition. I imagine they'd be able to add a rule about the eyes by having Light write in the Death Note about it, and aside from Rem being manipulated to kill L and Watari for Light, she didn't do much either.
 
Joshawott said:
Sparrowsabre7 said:
I understand the fan rage but I have to say... losing Ryuk wouldn't impact the film much. I mean they obviously should NOT do that, but if you look at him purely as what he brings to the story, he actually adds very little, he explains the Death Note and helps Light look for cameras but that's more or less it.

However, he is a great character and he does kick off the events that start the series and those that end it, but if you look at it objectively in terms of what can and cannot be cut from the movie to make it a reasonable length, then it's easy to see how the movie could still work without him. Wouldn't be a true adaptation or as good, but it would still work, provided the central fall of Light and mind game themes remained.

edit: before anyone starts the death threats, I'm just playing devil's advocate here :p
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The most essential thing is Ryuk giving Light the Death Note in the first place.

Aside from that though, the rules written in the Death Note give most of the exposition. I imagine they'd be able to add a rule about the eyes by having Light write in the Death Note about it, and aside from Rem being manipulated to kill L and Watari for Light, she didn't do much either.
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He didn't even GIVE Light the Death Note though, he just found it. But I think having a bored death god deliberately drop it for teh lulz is a much better plot opener than "boy finds magical note book of death." Also I hope they get Brian Drummond to voice Ryuk. Such a good voice, I love the sequence with Naomi Misora where he just laughs maniacally for ages.
 
Sparrowsabre7 said:
Joshawott said:
Sparrowsabre7 said:
I understand the fan rage but I have to say... losing Ryuk wouldn't impact the film much. I mean they obviously should NOT do that, but if you look at him purely as what he brings to the story, he actually adds very little, he explains the Death Note and helps Light look for cameras but that's more or less it.

However, he is a great character and he does kick off the events that start the series and those that end it, but if you look at it objectively in terms of what can and cannot be cut from the movie to make it a reasonable length, then it's easy to see how the movie could still work without him. Wouldn't be a true adaptation or as good, but it would still work, provided the central fall of Light and mind game themes remained.

edit: before anyone starts the death threats, I'm just playing devil's advocate here :p
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The most essential thing is Ryuk giving Light the Death Note in the first place.

Aside from that though, the rules written in the Death Note give most of the exposition. I imagine they'd be able to add a rule about the eyes by having Light write in the Death Note about it, and aside from Rem being manipulated to kill L and Watari for Light, she didn't do much either.
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He didn't even GIVE Light the Death Note though, he just found it. But I think having a bored death god deliberately drop it for teh lulz is a much better plot opener than "boy finds magical note book of death." Also I hope they get Brian Drummond to voice Ryuk. Such a good voice, I love the sequence with Naomi Misora where he just laughs maniacally for ages.
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For voicing CGI characters etc, I do hope they try and get the anime voice actors to reprise their roles...doubt it though; they'll probably give Ryuk's role to some piece of crap like Ben Stiller xD
 
I have to say cutting Ryuk would be a big mistake. Whilst a LA movie would be aiming at a different market, Ryuk, whilst not necessarily doing a LOT is still a fairly big influence on the series, not to mention the catalyst for several big events, not to mention his presence is an influence, psychological and otherwise, on Light himself.

He, and the apples, are also one of the biggest symbols of the series.
To put it this way, it'd be extremely wierd to have a story about a Shinigami's notebook, and the psychological corruption almost unlimited power could cause, and remove the Shinigami himself.

He's a fairly big icon of the series, so, even if he doesn't have a big part in a film, I still think it'd be a mistake to completely remove him (and as a note, I'm actually not massively fond of DN, even though its a good portal series, the second half of the story just falls flat compared to the first half)


You could make a good psychological, cat and mouse film about a guy fairly easily, but with some of the above stripped out, would it really be Deathnote?
 
alexrose1uk said:
I have to say cutting Ryuk would be a big mistake. Whilst a LA movie would be aiming at a different market, Ryuk, whilst not necessarily doing a LOT is still a fairly big influence on the series, not to mention the catalyst for several big events, not to mention his presence is an influence, psychological and otherwise, on Light himself.

He, and the apples, are also one of the biggest symbols of the series.
To put it this way, it'd be extremely wierd to have a story about a Shinigami's notebook, and the psychological corruption almost unlimited power could cause, and remove the Shinigami himself.

He's a fairly big icon of the series, so, even if he doesn't have a big part in a film, I still think it'd be a mistake to completely remove him (and as a note, I'm actually not massively fond of DN, even though its a good portal series, the second half of the story just falls flat compared to the first half)


You could make a good psychological, cat and mouse film about a guy fairly easily, but with some of the above stripped out, would it really be Deathnote?
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I think Warner Bros. plan was to take a couple years off Light, have him in early High School with Misa as nothing but a romantic interest high school girl and by removing Ryuk it turns into a "sparkly happy story about love and justice" starring the "cute" Zac Efron (who really isn't cute at all), with the Death Note being replaced by a rainbow smile.
 
To say they have spectacularly missed the whole point of the series, and why Light is even compelling to watch in the first place, would be understating it imo.

I'm also surprised they didn't want to change it to Death Facebook.
 
ilmaestro said:
To say they have spectacularly missed the whole point of the series, and why Light is even compelling to watch in the first place, would be understating it imo.

I'm also surprised they didn't want to change it to Death Facebook.
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Isn't that basically what Hell Girl is? :p
 
i not watch all death note but my personally and i think it is right Hollywood studio decide should axed Ryuk because he is too weird and useless. He just help to light how to use death note.
 
Joshawott said:
Light's new background was apparently going to be vengeance for a friend murdered while he was young. So instead of him using the notebook to seek justice, he uses it for revenge? Luckily he opposed it.
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Isn't justice just taking revenge on behalf of someone else?
 
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