Hatsune Miku's creator, Hiroyuki Itoh lecture in Edinburgh

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chaos said:
Meiko and Kaito were the first ones actually.

I'm curious to the Vocaloid 3 that Yamaha's releasing this month, which they claim to be their best human synthesising software yet, and considering the time it has been in development, I kinda believe they will come up with something good.
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Agreed, but there's a reason Miku has 01 tatooed on her left arm and not 03. Each were prototypes, and developement platforms that were used to create the final product for the shelves, which first up was Miku. Is that yet another Vocaloid3? Because they have released 5, or 6 individuals on 3 already. Miku's english version will be on the Vocaloid3 platform. That has been pushed back to Spring of 2013 now as announced at NYCC. Crypton played yet another demo which was an improvement to my ears from the last one, but still no better than what a talented artist could do with the original Japanese VB really. They did stress that "it's still beta" though.
 
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I've got it wrong. They are releasing a new plugin tomorrow which is supposed to enhance the synthesising.
Or at least, that's what my google translated version of anime anime told me....
 
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chaos said:
They are releasing a new plugin tomorrow which is supposed to enhance the synthesising.
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That, one expects, could be met with the ire of the more dedicated of her followers.
 
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I wouldn't mind it just as a means of providing synth'd voices as stand in for actors in projects.
 
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Zin5ki said:
chaos said:
They are releasing a new plugin tomorrow which is supposed to enhance the synthesising.
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That, one expects, could be met with the ire of the more dedicated of her followers.
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Being one of those, I can see why as long as it makes her sound even more real. The programme already had a "breath" insert which when used added to the fantasy of reality as well.
 
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I want to add that the concerts are not under the exclusive control of CFM, but they (CFM) are a part of a commitee mainly controlled by the games maker Sega, who developed the Project Diva software used to animate the characters, and a few others. So though he says he wants to have a concert in Europe, he has to convince the commitee, called "Sega Mage", it's worth it. You asked the question about "sourcing from the crowds" and I was surprised at his answer, considering that every song that was ever released was from that very same crowd, including every single one sung in the concerts....... No I believe one was commissioned by Crypton and that was hajimete no oto (The First Sound) done in celebration of Miku's recent 5th. "birthday" anniversary on the 31st August, but even that was originally created by one of the "crowd" called Malo. I created a forum thread at Hatsune Miku's Facebook page asking if Itoh-san was correct that there isn't enough fans in the UK for a concert and so far by the response, he's right.
 
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Tucky said:
Sunnycon (http://www.sunnycon.co.uk) are having a Miku concert next year in March. Fan ran by the Miku UK Project (https://www.facebook.com/MikuUK?fref=ts) plus it's Crypton approved.
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This is fantastic news.

Mohawk52 said:
I want to add that the concerts are not under the exclusive control of CFM, but they (CFM) are a part of a commitee mainly controlled by the games maker Sega, who developed the Project Diva software used to animate the characters, and a few others. So though he says he wants to have a concert in Europe, he has to convince the commitee, called "Sega Mage", it's worth it.
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Interesting. I'll be reaching out to Sega and I'll try to get more info from them.

Mohawk52 said:
You asked the question about "sourcing from the crowds" and I was surprised at his answer, considering that every song that was ever released was from that very same crowd, including every single one sung in the concerts....... No I believe one was commissioned by Crypton and that was hajimete no oto (The First Sound) done in celebration of Miku's recent 5th. "birthday" anniversary on the 31st August, but even that was originally created by one of the "crowd" called Malo.
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The question was a little ambiguous. What I was talking about was if Crypton wanted to fish people out of the pool of creators to make stuff for them. Most of the Miku stuff I've seen are actually released by the collectives (eg - Supercell) or artists themselves. My question was more about Crypton creating a "best of Miku" for instance.

Mohawk52 said:
I created a forum thread at Hatsune Miku's Facebook page asking if Itoh-san was correct that there isn't enough fans in the UK for a concert and so far by the response, he's right.
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I can't post there, but I've reposted on a big anime convetion group I'm in, let's see what happens there:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/6664718553/?fref=ts
 
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chaos said:
The question was a little ambiguous. What I was talking about was if Crypton wanted to fish people out of the pool of creators to make stuff for them. Most of the Miku stuff I've seen are actually released by the collectives (eg - Supercell) or artists themselves. My question was more about Crypton creating a "best of Miku" for instance.
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http://karent.jp/
This is also Crypton. These are all available on iTunes, and Amazon mp3, or HearJapan.
 
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If I'm understanding correctly, what Chaos means is commissioning tracks specifically rather than bundling up the popular producer's hits. I think this probably has been done on a few occasions too, at least by Sega and Quake etc (specifically, whenever a new album comes out with a special 'newly composed' exclusive track from somebody with a good reputation), but arguably at that point it's more commissioning a track directly from a now-famous producer.

When I think of crowd-sourcing to commission, I'd imagine something more like the MMD Cup or the various UTAU cups where anyone can create works based on a set theme, and then other users incorporate those works into their own projects, until in the end users are shown some very high quality results indeed.

FWIW I like Vocaloid in general but am not a member of any of the English-language Vocaloid communities (nor do I wish to be) so you can imagine an additional one person who would probably go to a UK event. So long as it was actually about the music and not just cosplay/socialising ^^;

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