Comments about Cowboy Bebop BD release

fabricatedlunatic said:
And I even woke up this morning to a £1.49 refund from Amazon because they lowered the price between the time they sent my copy and the release date. It just keeps on giving.

Same here, wondering if I should of pre-ordered the 2nd part before now in case the price dropped like part 1 did.
 
BDT87 said:
For those who were over the top with arguing me saying I'm wrong and all that, your welcome!
::creak::

BDT87 said:
Don't worry I have given it a rest 'cos I have proved my point
::snap::

Wasn't the gist of your argument basically "They shouldn't be promoting their products before release, what if there's a problem with them?" So presumably no-one should ever promote their products until they're released and confirmed free of flaws? I look forward to you moaning about every single piece of promotion done for an unreleased product from every anime and manga distributor from now on, just in case.

And what if this release had been absolutely flawless? Do you think anyone else would have made a similar thread and pointedly gloated how you were wrong and we were right? How to win friends and influence people, lesson one: Remove head from own anus.
 
ayase said:
And what if this release had been absolutely flawless? Do you think anyone else would have made a similar thread and pointedly gloated how you were wrong and we were right? How to win friends and influence people, lesson one: Remove head from own anus.
To be fair to BDT87, he didn't make this thread, his comment was originally made in the Artwork thread and was then moved here - I assume for being off-topic.
 
ayase said:
I look forward to you moaning about every single piece of promotion done for an unreleased product from every anime and manga distributor from now on, just in case.

And what if this release had been absolutely flawless? Do you think anyone else would have made a similar thread and pointedly gloated how you were wrong and we were right? How to win friends and influence people, lesson one: Remove head from own anus.

Well there is no NEW Company now to talk about. If you did read, I don't mind how they do promotion, they did it very well but when they just showed a clip from a series every other week, hyping us up. When the series isn't coming out till next year then yea it's tiresome. At least they have a release out now and i'm looking forward for more releases/license.

AntAce said:
To be fair to BDT87, he didn't make this thread, his comment was originally made in the Artwork thread and was then moved here - I assume for being off-topic.

Cheers dude

EDIT.
Just checked mine on Episode 2, 17 mins and 40 seconds in. And yup it's on mine as well. Is this for everyone then? Or just a selected few?
 
Confirming the video glitch on my copy as well.

It's not a show stopper (I've seen far FAR worse, World of Narue springing to mind) but yeah, it's kinda out there for the world to see.
 
Given the cost of BD creation that Manga UK have often mentioned, I'd be surprised if they have more than one version of the discs, so the glitch should be on every copy (unless they got a truly massive amount of preorders and already did a second batch). That's also why I'm pretty confident in getting one of the region free sets. It doesn't make sense from a production point of view to have multiple versions circulating at this early stage.

Of course, some players might hide the glitch. People upset about it should probably drop Anime Limited a message to make sure they're considered when the corrected copies are produced (and keep suggesting to their friends to buy copies, so that the second print run happens sooner!).

R
 
Rui said:
(and keep suggesting to their friends to buy copies, so that the second print run happens sooner!).
I dunno, that comes off as somewhat scummy.

I'd tell them to buy it but to do it at consideration of the issue at hand, momentary or not.
 
A momentary video glitch seems so insignificant compared to the crippled discs with mistimed subs or other issues. And they already said they'll be able to do replacements later.

R
 
Rui said:
A momentary video glitch seems so insignificant compared to the crippled discs with mistimed subs or other issues. And they already said they'll be able to do replacements later.

R

But those replacements won't be region free.
 
Rui said:
Of course, some players might hide the glitch. People upset about it should probably drop Anime Limited a message to make sure they're considered when the corrected copies are produced (and keep suggesting to their friends to buy copies, so that the second print run happens sooner!).

R

I assume there's been no official word on how to go about getting a replacement disc at this time?
 
Sorry, been rather busy the last two weeks so I've not looked in as much as usual! Will start at the beginning and work my way through!

BDT87 said:
Short story: I got tired of the advertising from Anime Limited when nothing has been released yet. A lot of people said it was good advertising and yes it is but it gets tired when you see new "updates" every week when its not going to be released for a long time such as OutLaw Star.

You have to keep in mind this is a phenomena that occurs squarely when you're starting out more than anything. It's a big title and made sense to launch by announcing it in December. I'd intended for it to be ready in May actually but material coordination was more complex for this title than usual given the companies who had assets prior were dissolved.

Very sorry if it's interfered with your enjoyment of things and if you can detail particular examples of it happening again I will keep my eyes open and start reviewing how we do that. If we can't change if for some reason then I'll come back and explain.

BDT87 said:
Now we actually HAVE a release from Anime Limited, let me just warn you guys there is actually a fault on the release, yes the first release.
There is a slight glitch on CowBoy Bebop and error on discs.
This was taken from another thread. I have no received my copy yet so I can't comment if this is going to happen on every disc.
"Discs are both labelled wrong too.
Disc 1 is labelled #1-6 and there are 7 episodes on there.
Disc 2 is labelled #7-13 and it obviously starts at 8."

To be completely honest - first releases are where you expect things like this to occur. Now to break it down:

- Chaptering is an issue that has been raises, we're aware of it and by the time it was raised it was likely too late for Part 2 of Bebop but has been noted. This doesn't fall into the realms of faulty though, just irritating.

- Discs labeled wrong - got us there! It's irritating and something always slips by - but we'll keep a closer eye next time to be sure the episodes match up per disc. Sorry for any frustration this has caused - on the upside, all the episodes listed are in the package at least!

- Video glitch - this is small and not at a crucial moment of the show, almost blink and miss it. We strive for video excellence though so this is something we are driven to remove and despite cost to ourselves re-paying for the glassmaster, postage and printing, we will prepare backup discs for everyone.

- 4:3 vs 16:9 - Had this a few times too - the video is pillarboxed because that's the way it was on the Japanese release. We can't mess around and add the option to stretch to widescreen because the video simply was not designed that way and will look pretty horrific if we did. It would never pass with the licensor.

I care a lot about you guys and now I'm in the position to actually control the whole chain there shouldn't be an answer I can avoid.

BDT87 said:
So Andrew is looking in to it, but it shows I was right in one argument. Don't get HYPED on a release before it gets released as there could be many problems with the release.

I hope this info brings new light as well for the people who did not know about the fault on CowBoy Bebop.

I don't think there's any issue with getting hyped up before a release per se (speaking as someone who does get excited still every time Hosoda-san makes a new film for example) - I think you just have to temper it and if something is up don't be afraid to contact the distributor and say. We're not a massive behemoth company, every one of your purchases matters to me to keep afloat and I'll always make myself available. Sometimes there may be nothing I can do but I'll at least explain why there's nothing that can be done and try my best to fix things going forwards (this isn't one of those times, thankfully)!

Thanks as ever for flagging these things and if you can get back to me on what you mean by too much promotion in advance I'll look into it in case it's likely to happen again (which I'm guessing not now our catalogue is more than just Cowboy Bebop!)

Very best,

Andrew Partridge,
President, Anime Limited
 
Re: Upcoming UK anime DVD artwork!

Mangaranga said:
Personally as someone who imports AoA releases, considering the money I paid and what I got for this release, I feel like I should have given them more money.

It comes in a nice digipack with a 40 page booklet and a proper box - not a cheap slipcover. It's pretty much an AoA type release but for a fraction of the price.

Glad you approve of the release style! We're still working out what works best cost wise but I adore the packaging - so for any title above a certain level (Cowboy Bebop, Gurren Lagann etc) we'll definitely follow that. We'll have to do some titles the boring way sadly just due to simple number games of not getting enough orders to justify the cost (for 1000 - 1500 max within Y1 it's just not viable for example).

We're going to strive to do that wherever we can though :).

Very best,

AP
 
Re: Upcoming UK anime DVD artwork!

AntAce said:
Yes, their Cowboy Bebop release has hit a few snags, but that isn't what you were originally harping on them for. I just hope this slight cock-up of a relatively high profile title won't do too much damage to morale, Christ knows we've needed a company such as AL, who actually get involved with the community as opposed to hiding behind closed doors - I'm looking at you, Kaze... I haven't bought a UK release for a while now, here's hoping Andrew and the guys over at AL can change that!

<3! We'll keep trying our best to change that!

Very best.

AP
 
BDT87 said:
I was NEVER on his back to begin with!
The whole discussion I said was on another thread but it appears the post has been moved and made in to a new thread
And I don't have the Blu-Ray so I can't comment if my copy will have this issue!

And yes it's a good thing Andrew has seen the problem and sent us a reply.

Don't worry - pretty sure I'd have noticed someone on my back! As I say it's always good to hear people's feedback anyway so on the upside of it being split out, I now spotted it without doing my usual trawl through the forums!

AP
 
Thanks Andrew!

I have to say the packaging is lovely, just as Mangaranga said above. It really feels worth the money while being nice and compact at the same time. Definitely one of my favourite UK releases in the last few years.

(And thank you for not messing with the video to try to force it to be widescreen!)

R
 
I grabbed all these titles when Beez had them (Bebop, Outlaw Star, Gurren Lagaan) but it's good to know they'll be back in circulation again if I ever need to get replacements!
 
ConanThe3rd said:
Honestly (after I got my PS3 to stop being a so and so about dual layer disks (I think it's time to go to that 500gb superslim I was eyeing)) I had no complaints (Criminy I didn't even think to see the Disk labeling) except, and this might be unavoidable, that the artbook's images were a bit...fuzzy? Like they were squashed too much.

Again, might be unavoidable.

And at least the box closes naturaly unlike the Tiger and Bunny + Magazine boxes.

Sadly was unavoidable due to the nature of the files we received, we do strive to get better linearts and artworks in future for similar ventures though!

Very best,

Andrew
 
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