Another "possible" outside threat to Anime

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Ryo Chan

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Drawings and computer-generated images of child sex abuse would be made illegal under proposals announced by Justice Minister Maria Eagle.

Owners of such images would face up to three years in prison under the plans.

The Obscene Publications Act makes it illegal to possess photos of child abuse but it is legal to own drawings and computer-generated images.

Ms Eagle said the proposed move would "help close a loophole that we believe paedophiles are using".

The plans are part of the government's response to a public consultation exercise carried out last year.

The government has acknowledged that paedophiles may be circumventing the law by using computer technology to manipulate real photographs or videos of abuse into drawings or cartoons.

A Ministry of Justice spokeswoman said the authorities had "noticed an increase in the existing availability of these images on the internet".

She said: "If we do not address the issues these images raise now it is likely their availability will continue to grow.

"They are often advertised as a legitimate depiction of child sexual abuse."
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Which in theory would mean, any Hentai or anime that shows abuse of a sexual nature to minors would be illegal

While i agree with the concept, it's no secret that hentai and dojins are a big part of the anime business in Japan (i even read a report that it may be bigger than the actual anime business itself)

When you think about how many big animes now are comming from h-games (Air, Shuffle! Kanon), Even shows like Elfen Lied and Negima are on the borderline of this, so surely this is going to cause atleast a minimal impact on anime in the UK
 
hentai fine take that away if it leaves the rest alone. but shows with fan service need to be left alone cause they are just for fun and aren't serious. as a gamer i am getting sick of goverements taking away my free rights on my hobbies. so i hope they are readng this screw you!
 
Oh yes, this is exactly the kind of firepower I want those dinosaurs at the BBFC having.

I meen, child porno henati fine, but knowing these gits, they'll blow up for no apprent reason over the smallest thing.
 
Conan-san said:
Oh yes, this is exactly the kind of firepower I want those dinosaurs at the BBFC having.

I meen, child porno henati fine, but knowing these gits, they'll blow up for no apprent reason over the smallest thing.
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which is exactly the reason i see it as a threat to anime, i can see them banning animes under this new law despite there being no actual "sexual references" between the characters

they'd probually ban Cardcaptor Sakura just because of Sakura's crush on Yukito :(
 
Ryo Chan said:
Conan-san said:
Oh yes, this is exactly the kind of firepower I want those dinosaurs at the BBFC having.

I meen, child porno henati fine, but knowing these gits, they'll blow up for no apprent reason over the smallest thing.
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which is exactly the reason i see it as a threat to anime, i can see them banning animes under this new law despite there being no actual "sexual references" between the characters

they'd probually ban Cardcaptor Sakura just because of Sakura's crush on Yukito :(
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The BBFC's a lot better nowadays than a couple of years ago (i did my media coursework on the evolution of the BBFC), we may see anime getting higher ratings but they won't ban anything (unless it IS child porn).
 
The problem is that the boundaries are shaky at best - how can a drawing be underage I mean? Three years in prison for a collection of pencil lines seems a bit harsh. I don't like the situation with lolicon, but there are somethings that can't be restricted.
 
they'd probually ban Cardcaptor Sakura just because of Sakura's crush on Yukito
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The "Cardcaptors" version that was shown on CITV ages ago was edited to remove all that stuff. Oh well, at least we'll still be able to import R1s in a worst case scenario.
 
I don't understand why anyone would want to watch shows with little girls like that anyway.
Creepy IMO
 
ryuzaki said:
they'd probually ban Cardcaptor Sakura just because of Sakura's crush on Yukito
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The "Cardcaptors" version that was shown on CITV ages ago was edited to remove all that stuff. Oh well, at least we'll still be able to import R1s in a worst case scenario.
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actually with the way the rule goes, owning it would be a jailable offence
 
Ryo Chan said:
ryuzaki said:
they'd probually ban Cardcaptor Sakura just because of Sakura's crush on Yukito
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The "Cardcaptors" version that was shown on CITV ages ago was edited to remove all that stuff. Oh well, at least we'll still be able to import R1s in a worst case scenario.
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actually with the way the rule goes, owning it would be a jailable offence
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"I sentence you to three years for owning an uncut copy of Cardcaptor Sakura!" No one in court would be able to keep a straight face :lol:
 
Wildcard said:
Ryo Chan said:
ryuzaki said:
they'd probually ban Cardcaptor Sakura just because of Sakura's crush on Yukito
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The "Cardcaptors" version that was shown on CITV ages ago was edited to remove all that stuff. Oh well, at least we'll still be able to import R1s in a worst case scenario.
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actually with the way the rule goes, owning it would be a jailable offence
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"I sentence you to three years for owning an uncut copy of Cardcaptor Sakura!" No one in court would be able to keep a straight face :lol:
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i'm sure they'd re-word it to something like "I sentence you to three years for owning an uncut copy of Cardcaptor Sakura which shows a young child being groomed by an older student for sexual purposes which the young child shows by taking it out on her plush toys and her female best friend by agreeing to dress in such hanus clothes" :D

god bless the british justice system
 
Ye can take my land, but you can never take my Loli! :lol:

Though it's a bit confusing with anime...after all some characters meant to be 10-14 look like (older) teenagers, and some teenager characters are drawn like girls.
 
This isn't a threat to anime. Well, it's not a threat to decent anime, anyway! I totally agree that owning lolicon or shotacon should be illegal.
 
CitizenGeek said:
This isn't a threat to anime. Well, it's not a thread to decent anime, anyway! I totally agree that owning lolicon or shotacon should be illegal.
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What about Excel Saga? Especially the final episode. Three years for that? And what about the loop hole.
She isn't twelve guv, she just looks that way
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Sasami is supposed to be over seven hundred years old, so that's fine, but Mahoro (from Mahoromatic) will get you in the slammer cause she's only been operational for 9 yrs 2 months (and lets not even consider Saori's preferences).
 
My (albeit slightly off-topic) view on this might surprise you - I don't have a problem with hentai. For sure, I don't watch the stuff and what little I've had exposure to (namely Legend of the Overfiend) disgusted me.

My point is, unlike live-action pornography no *real people* are doing anything degrading, harmful or illegal (I'm assuming the voices in hentai are just acting!)...so, while it can be repulsive there are no victims and therefore no crime has been committed. It's merely moving pictures of people doing distasteful things.

As for the 'harmful influence' card that's thrown up, anyone who goes out and commits a sex crime after watching tentacle porn is wrong in the head to begin with.

Back on-topic, these proposals IF they become law are unlikely to threaten the anime industry - the worst we're likely to see is a raised incidence of annoying misunderstandings at the hand of ill-informed individuals...which we as fans are used to seeing anyway, right?
 
I better hide that copy of Cosplay Complex.

I can understand where this sort of thing comes from. With paedophiles trying to get around the law by changing the images they pass around, new ways of stopping it are going to be needed. But really the way this is going seems to suggest there is a paedophile behind every lamp post and bush. Sooner or later some poor kid that has no interest in that kind of thing is going to end up in therapy because they own a couple of anime or manga that are deemed a bit dodgy.

In the end I can see this going the same way as the gun ban, a lot of legitimate collectors and owners being inconvenienced, whilst the criminals can still get hold of whatever they want.
 
I just don't like the way the article labels anime as only being cartoon of little kids in sexual encounters. At least i'm sure that's how people not exposed to what anime really is will think it is after reading that...
 
Am i the only one who finds it highly unlickley that peadophiles are going to use the sketch effect on all their photos or print them out and trace over them?
 
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