Defective or Disappointing UK Anime Discs

Googlyhead said:
You seem to be detailing this as an audio problem, but I think it’s more likely the picture being delayed. When I first read (skimmed) the issue, I thought it was the audio needing to catch up, but no; it’s ahead…
Does your tv have some form of ‘game mode’ that you could try (which usually minimises input latency)? Or in the other direction; any audio connections on the player itself that you could use to skip the tv?
Click to expand...
I tried the audio/video sync adjustment on my BD player when I watched Season 1 of Dragon Maid. I thought it worked at first, but when it went to the next episode, that turned out not to be the case, and that was when I discovered that rewinding it for a brief moment fixes the issue, but I have to make sure not to rewind it to the blank screen or it will not fix the issue. I'll see if my TV has "game mode", and check if it corrects the issue. Thanks.
 
Last edited:
Magical Senshi said:
I tried the audio/video sync adjustment on my BD player when I watched Season 1 of Dragon Maid. I thought it worked at first, but when it went to the next episode, that turned out not to be the case, and that was when I discovered that rewinding it for a brief moment fixes the issue, but I have to make sure not to rewind it to the blank screen or it will not fix the issue. I'll see if my TV has "game mode", and check if it corrects the issue. Thanks.
Click to expand...
If it doesn't make sure to turn off all that motion smoothing bs, it makes everything look awful and adds significant latency.
 
sniper_samurai said:
If it doesn't make sure to turn off all that motion smoothing bs, it makes everything look awful and adds significant latency.
Click to expand...
The motion smoothing was already off, as I prefer to watch the video as originally intended.

I tried "game mode" and unfortunately, it didn't work.

What I might have to do, when I get a spare few minutes, is to test my BD player on the living room TV, and check to see if it's the problem with my bedroom TV or the fault of my BD player.
 
Magical Senshi said:
The motion smoothing was already off, as I prefer to watch the video as originally intended.

I tried "game mode" and unfortunately, it didn't work.

What I might have to do, when I get a spare few minutes, is to test my BD player on the living room TV, and check to see if it's the problem with my bedroom TV or the fault of my BD player.
Click to expand...
Maybe sounds dumb but could the HDMI cable be to blame? If its faulty / not the best quality you might be getting some weird handshaking issue. If you are going through an AV receiver?
 
sirijo said:
Maybe sounds dumb but could the HDMI cable be to blame? If its faulty / not the best quality you might be getting some weird handshaking issue. If you are going through an AV receiver?
Click to expand...
I'm not sure, but luckily, I have a few spare HDMI cables. When I get a spare few minutes, I'll try changing the cables to see if that works.
 
Right, I've tried the HDMI cable swap. That didn't work. Then I've tried testing it with my living room TV (both that and my bedroom TV are Hisense branded TVs, albeit different models). That didn't work either.

From what I've checked so far, as I've mentioned before, I only have this problem with select Crunchymation authored titles.
 
Last edited:
Magical Senshi said:
Right, I've tried the HDMI cable swap. That didn't work. Then I've tried testing it with my living room TV (both that and my bedroom TV are Hisense branded TVs, albeit different models). That didn't work either.

From what I've checked so far, as I've mentioned before, I only have this problem with select Crunchymation authored titles.
Click to expand...

It may not work, but have you tried going into your Blu-ray player's settings and changing the audio settings from Bitstream to PCM or LPCM? It's usually under something like "digital audio output".

For whatever reason, it may be because your TV is taking a fraction longer to unpack and decode the audio that is being sent from your player. Changing it to PCM or LPCM directly on the player means your TV shouldn't have to unpack anything audio-wise (as the audio will be unpacked and decoded in the player, before its sent to the TV), so that could fix the syncing issue.
 
BrokenPhoenix said:
It may not work, but have you tried going into your Blu-ray player's settings and changing the audio settings from Bitstream to PCM or LPCM? It's usually under something like "digital audio output".

For whatever reason, it may be because your TV is taking a fraction longer to unpack and decode the audio that is being sent from your player. Changing it to PCM or LPCM directly on the player means your TV shouldn't have to unpack anything audio-wise (as the audio will be unpacked and decoded in the player, before its sent to the TV), so that could fix the syncing issue.
Click to expand...
I've changed the settings from Auto to PCM on my player, and it worked. I even tested the affected BDs to confirm this.

Thanks for your help!
 
I've always set the bluray player to bitstream the audio to the receiver and let it decode the audio and have never had any sync issues. That goes for my Sony, Panasonic and Samjunk bluray players.
 
Sometimes it's not a hardware issue (although it can be and it can be a combination of hardware and disc authoring). The fact that not all the discs Senshi tested had the sync issue, suggests it's more likely due to the way the affected discs were authored, or that's at least the source of the issue.

Whatever shenanigans was going on when the audio/video moved to the next episode, was resolved by allowing the player to unpack and decode the audio before sending it to the TV.

My guess is there's something about the 2.0 Japanese audio track, as they mentioned the English track synced up fine on the same disc.
 
Last edited:
BrokenPhoenix said:
Sometimes it's not a hardware issue (although it can be and it can be a combination of hardware and disc authoring). The fact that not all the discs Senshi tested had the sync issue, suggests it's more likely due to the way the affected discs were authored, or that's at least the source of the issue.

Whatever shenanigans was going on when the audio/video moved to the next episode, was resolved by allowing the player to unpack and decode the audio before sending it to the TV.

My guess is there's something about the 2.0 Japanese audio track, as they mentioned the English track synced up fine on the same disc.
Click to expand...
In terms of discs I've tested, before I changed the audio settings to fix the issue, these are the titles I had syncing problems with (from what I can remember), all of them being Crunchymation discs/authors.

Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid
Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid S (extras only, the episodes worked fine)
High School DxD
High School DxD Hero
Mitchiko & Hatchin
D-Frag

In terms of Crunchymation discs/authors, these didn't have the sync issue out of those I've tested (from what I can remember).
Space Patrol Luluco
High School DxD New
High School DxD BorN
My Hero Academia Season 1 (I didn't test out the other seasons)

None of the Blu-rays I tested from other distributors/authors had this issue.
 
Magical Senshi said:
In terms of discs I've tested, before I changed the audio settings to fix the issue, these are the titles I had syncing problems with (from what I can remember), all of them being Crunchymation discs/authors.

Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid
Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid S (extras only, the episodes worked fine)
High School DxD
High School DxD Hero
Mitchiko & Hatchin
D-Frag

In terms of Crunchymation discs/authors, these didn't have the sync issue out of those I've tested (from what I can remember).
Space Patrol Luluco
High School DxD New
High School DxD BorN
My Hero Academia Season 1 (I didn't test out the other seasons)

None of the Blu-rays I tested from other distributors/authors had this issue.
Click to expand...

It would be interesting to see with the list of affected discs, whether all of them play fine when watching the English dub.

If so, it would suggest there's been some funny authoring going on with the Japanese track/video file when the episode transitions to the next (perhaps during the transition to the next episode, the sync between audio and video is messing up slightly because of the dodgy authoring).

I don't own any of those Blu-rays; but do the affected ones have anything like Japanese credits at the end of an episode when you watch the Japanese version and English credits at the end when you watch the English dub?

If that is the case, it could be a result of some poorly authored seamless branching - where if it's done badly, it can cause syncing issues on some TVs if they are left to process that data.
 
Back
Top