What, in your personal opinion, makes a premium release special?

[AntAce]

Re: Anime Limited updates and ideas - DRR / Gurren edition

There's evidence of that nonsense working in America. Where there is pure numbers to make up the few, the mad, the stupid that make up NISA/Aniplex's customer base.

One: We live in a global marketplace; Aniplex/NISA products are readily available in the UK and, I assume, other countries.
Two: Your 'pure numbers' argument only holds water in the context of Anime Limited pursuing a LE-only release strategy for Gurren Lagann, which they demonstrably aren't.

But there is evidence of similar models working? Aniplex and NISA are both cases in point. Both companies have released LEs of their products, following them up months later with a RE.

To NIS America, yes.

However with Aniplex USA they never applied them to the Blu-ray versions (exception being Baccano! and Madoka Magica TV) as I would like to see a regular edition release of R.O.D. appear someday, since it's been a while. They did however release REs for DVDs of the rest (except Baccano! since that's Funimations doing).

Baccano! was the release I was thinking of, but my point still stands regardless of format. Madoka Magica is an interesting release, as it is a series in which Aniplex released three iterations of at the same time (RE DVD, RE BD, LE DVD/BD). What's more interesting however is Aniplex not going down a similar path with later releases, correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[NormanicGrav]

Re: Anime Limited updates and ideas - DRR / Gurren edition

Baccano! was the release I was thinking of, but my point still stands regardless of format.

Your point is valid, I'm just adding a bit more info regarding the AoA part (by the way, I don't like how this thread is going..).

 

[Rui]

Re: Anime Limited updates and ideas - DRR / Gurren edition

Me either. Also the next mention of watching the show illegally online as a viable alternative to helping with Anime Limited's research will result in the person taking an involuntarily two week holiday from the thread.

R

 

[ConanThe3rd]

Re: Anime Limited updates and ideas - DRR / Gurren edition

There's evidence of that nonsense working in America. Where there is pure numbers to make up the few, the mad, the stupid that make up NISA/Aniplex's customer base.

One: We live in a global marketplace; Aniplex/NISA products are readily available in the UK and, I assume, other countries.
Two: Your 'pure numbers' argument only holds water in the context of Anime Limited pursuing a LE-only release strategy for Gurren Lagann, which they demonstrably aren't..

One: Then NISA/ANIPLEX US have an even wider audience, point is; they can handle having a LE release due to a wider market reach (even if they're really only supposed to be focused on the Americas) whilst a UK Focused release (Which would be lazer focused on the UK and the UK Alone) does not command that luxury.

Two: A timed exclusivity release strategy might as well be a LE Only release strategy for all it matters, so see point one about what I feel about that.

 

[jonno394]

Re: Anime Limited updates and ideas - DRR / Gurren edition

maybe a friendly admin can do the split

 

[AntAce]

Re: Anime Limited updates and ideas - DRR / Gurren edition

One: Then NISA/ANIPLEX US have an even wider audience, point is; they can handle having a LE release due to a wider market reach (even if they're really only supposed to be focused on the Americas) whilst a UK Focused release (Which would be lazer focused on the UK and the UK Alone) does not command that luxury.

Two: A timed exclusivity release strategy might as well be a LE Only release strategy for all it matters, so see point one about what I feel about that.

I don't even understand what you find bothersome anymore. From the above, it seems to me you're arguing against a LE completely. There has to be some benefit to paying more for the LE, be it access to the Parallel Works/Movies, an artbook, or something that isn't so tangible, such as time - knowing you have it before other people.

Perhaps it's me; I'm not the sort of person liable to get shirty and label people ********s over a luxury such as anime. Funny that.

 

[ConanThe3rd]

Re: Anime Limited updates and ideas - DRR / Gurren edition

One: Then NISA/ANIPLEX US have an even wider audience, point is; they can handle having a LE release due to a wider market reach (even if they're really only supposed to be focused on the Americas) whilst a UK Focused release (Which would be lazer focused on the UK and the UK Alone) does not command that luxury.

Two: A timed exclusivity release strategy might as well be a LE Only release strategy for all it matters, so see point one about what I feel about that.

I don't even understand what you find bothersome anymore. From the above, it seems to me you're arguing against a LE completely. There has to be some benefit to paying more for the LE, be it access to the Parallel Works/Movies, an artbook, or something that isn't so tangible, such as time - knowing you have it before other people.

If the LE crowd get everything (as I have suggested they do and then us proles might get the extra content later in some form or fashion) then why is timed exclusivity, something that has not been tested in the UK Anime Market and is therefore an uncalculated risk, even an incentive? What does that even accomplish except, as demonstrated, a lot of anger for what has not got to be anything great in terms of additional capital and might even lead to losses?

Perhaps it's me; I'm not the sort of person liable to get shirty and label people ********s over a luxury such as anime. Funny that.

I'll get as damn shirty as I please and I will not call someone who is a cretin not a cretin for that can do no good.

Frankly speaking, if I need to go down to wherever Andrew (or any UK anime distro's CEO) is and personally talk him out of adopting such price models (Which, and pay attention here, don't just assume I'm talking smack about your mother, that is what you seem to do when I write posts and it urks me to no end and leads to the shirtyness in the first instance, IS NOT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH ANY LUCK WITH THE GL BOXSET SITUATION. MY ISSUE IS WITH THE TIMED EXCLUSIVITY ALONE, I HAVE GIVEN THAT THE MOVIES AND PW ARE LOST IN THIS SITUATION.) then that is what I will do.

 

[Joshawott]

Re: What, in your personal opinion, makes a premium release

In regards to timing of a limited edition vs a regular edition, I think of it like this:

Bravely Default, a Square Enix 3DS JRPG distributed by Nintendo, is due out in Europe on 6th December. On that date, fans have three ways of purchasing the game:
1: The regular, physical edition. Just a game cartridge in a box. SRP is £39.99, but will be about £34.99 online.
2: The digital edition, which will be available to download from the Nintendo eShop for £39.99 (Let's not get into Nintendo's digital pricing strategies xD).
3: Deluxe Collector's Edition, which includes the game on a physical cartridge, an art-book, an original soundtrack CD, 34 AR cards and a figurine of the game's main character. This is exclusive to ShopTo.net and costs £90.

The three sets being released at the same time means that Nintendo is appealing to all types of consumers - those who prefer physical copies, those who prefer downloads and the hardcore JRPG fans who would want all of the cool stuff, like soundtracks and artbooks. I know people who are getting the first option, I know people who are getting the second and I know people who are getting the third.

I see the reason why AniplexUSA did something similar with Madoka, with the DVD/LE CE, the BD release and the DVD release to be with a similar mindset - to make sure that they appealed to as many potential customers as possible. The blu-ray for those with that format, DVDs for those who only have DVD players and the Collector's Edition being a DVD/BD combi so even people who only have DVD players can enjoy the goodies (with it being split over 3 volumes because Aniplex).

There is always a risk that releasing the cheaper set at the same time as the premium will lower sales of the premium, but even knowing one is coming later down the line will have that effect, while releasing one later on that was unannounced when the premium came out will just piss off consumers.

 

[ConanThe3rd]

Re: What, in your personal opinion, makes a premium release

Not to off topic but my only gripe is a lack of a cloud account for easy restoration of games in case of lost/destroyed 3ds

 

[cudwieser]

Re: What, in your personal opinion, makes a premium release

In regards to timing of a limited edition vs a regular edition, I think of it like this:

Bravely Default, a Square Enix 3DS JRPG distributed by Nintendo, is due out in Europe on 6th December. On that date, fans have three ways of purchasing the game:
1: The regular, physical edition. Just a game cartridge in a box. SRP is £39.99, but will be about £34.99 online.
2: The digital edition, which will be available to download from the Nintendo eShop for £39.99 (Let's not get into Nintendo's digital pricing strategies xD).
3: Deluxe Collector's Edition, which includes the game on a physical cartridge, an art-book, an original soundtrack CD, 34 AR cards and a figurine of the game's main character. This is exclusive to ShopTo.net and costs £90.

The three sets being released at the same time means that Nintendo is appealing to all types of consumers - those who prefer physical copies, those who prefer downloads and the hardcore JRPG fans who would want all of the cool stuff, like soundtracks and artbooks. I know people who are getting the first option, I know people who are getting the second and I know people who are getting the third.

I see the reason why AniplexUSA did something similar with Madoka, with the DVD/LE CE, the BD release and the DVD release to be with a similar mindset - to make sure that they appealed to as many potential customers as possible. The blu-ray for those with that format, DVDs for those who only have DVD players and the Collector's Edition being a DVD/BD combi so even people who only have DVD players can enjoy the goodies (with it being split over 3 volumes because Aniplex).

There is always a risk that releasing the cheaper set at the same time as the premium will lower sales of the premium, but even knowing one is coming later down the line will have that effect, while releasing one later on that was unannounced when the premium came out will just piss off consumers.

I must agree. I have forked over the odds for extras that I fancy and find a premium for significant extras is not a problem as long as the premium is proportionate to the extra. I hate ransoms though. The buy it or else of some of the distributors or worse, the oop hoggers on ebay and amazon. Basically the same argument, but cynically done with all releases.