Speaking just for Danbooru here, not any other boorus:
Yes. You're forcing the responsibility for monitoring and policing their own content onto individual fan artists with negligible English skills, and it happens even if they explicitly post warnings begging people not to do it in English (my favourite is the impassioned 'unauthorized copying dries the bones of artists', which is, of course, completely ignored by enough sharers to break my heart).
There is a version of the disclaimer (which tells artists what to do if they want their works deleted) in Japanese, and if someone comments in Japanese asking for their art to be removed then there is usually someone who is able to point them towards it. Which somewhat mitigates the language barrier.
Incidentally, if you know of any artists who "explicitly post warnings begging people not to do it" whose work has been hosted on danbooru anyway, feel free to notify them that their work is being hosted on the site and link them to
Wiki - disclaimer:japanese - Danbooru
The artist receives no feedback at all. Many of them will never, ever find out their work was even shared if you didn't bother asking for permission, so they will never know anyone liked it.
It's true, and a shame (although you'd be surprised at the number of artists who do find their work on danbooru). Honestly, I wish I could just send a stock message to new artists that I had uploaded their work on the site, explaining what the site was and giving them the above link in case they didn't want their art posted on there. Unfortunately I feel that the first person who didn't want their work rehosted would instead just report me on pixiv and get me banned from there.
While linking to the source may drive traffic to their page, for a lot of casual image browsers it takes traffic away by making the Boorus popular and Pixiv less popular. This is bad for artists.
I've no idea how the balance with that is, although I'd be surprised if the effect was a net negative to pixiv in the long run. The fact is, though, that it can be really difficult finding the art you want on sites like Pixiv (let alone on twitter where it's basically impossible) - and
this is a major reason why people prefer boorus. Such art wouldn't be viewed in the first place on pixiv for the most part.
The artist is unable to tag and add context to the image themselves. Offensive or incorrect (to them) tags may be added instead. To use a silly example, a Seme x Uke image might be incorrectly attributed as an Uke x Seme image. No big deal to the uploader, annoying to the fan who spend 18 solid hours drawing and colouring the piece in the first place.
The artist can change the tag themself if they want. Danbooru operates tagging on the principle of "tag what you see" so tags like "Seme x Uke" don't exist - it would just be tagged as "yaoi". If someone misinterprets a part of the image, though, then corrections would be more than welcomed - doubly so if they come from the artist themself. Although of course the tag would have to fit in with the tagging system, and I've had to change tags that were taken from the artist's pixiv before now on account of danbooru having a different concept to the artist of what makes, for example, "large breasts". Likewise if the artist adds tags on pixiv late and after the image is already on danbooru then they will often be spotted and then added to the danbooru image by other users, so the onus here isn't on the artist to change it.
The artist cannot make changes if they notice an actual mistake because they aren't the one in 'control' of the image any more.
True in the sense that the image won't be changed, but the tag "md5 mismatch" is added to any image that has been changed, and various "bad id" tags if the image has been deleted. These tags are added by a bot so there's no need for anyone to notice the change, and inform any viewers that the image has been revised by the artist. The viewer can then go to the source link to see the newly revised post (again, sending them to the original source to view the work) or if the new version gets uploaded as well then the original version will be put as a subsidiary to the new one.
If the original image is problematic in some way, not being able to take it down or see where it's shared might harm their future employment or real life in some way (particularly a problem with images casually shared on Twitter and deleted later - too late).
I had never actually thought about that. The worst content is either blocked entirely or has access restricted, which would likely prevent employers from finding it, but it's true that there are images on the site that the artist may find awkward or worse. I can't say that any of my uploads fall into that category though.
The artist can upload their work to the Booru themselves if they wanted it there in the first place. Why not educate them about this rather than speaking for them?
Actually, on Danbooru they can't - or shouldn't at any rate. Artists are not allowed to upload their own art on the site on the basis that the artist is not a good judge of the quality of their own work. And tend to get very upset when their work then gets deleted for not being good enough.
The artist cannot permanently take the work down without navigating a bunch of gibberish English-biased rules about claiming work.
As mentioned above, this is not the case for Danbooru. If an artist wants their work down then they can request it in Japanese, without once reading or typing a word of English. I won't deny that knowing English makes the process easier, though.
From my experience, a lot of sites ignore takedown requests anyway. Only one of my Japanese friends has ever managed it without me stepping in to help and moan at the right people, and she's the most determined person I have ever met.
I can't speak for sites that I don't use.
Someone else will just upload it even if it is removed and even if the original uploader is banned.
Generally doesn't happen on Danbooru. The overwhelming majority of the non-scan art on the site is uploaded with the bookmarklet, which will recognise that the artist is banned and give a message with red highlight saying "Banned Artist" just below the submit button when you try to upload, and the artist tag implicates the banned artist tag so it's easy anyone to spot this work and get it removed on the occasions when it does happen. Deliberately evading this is a bannable offence and I've only ever heard of one person actually do this. Also the work is not actually removed from the site but merely hidden which means that the bookmarklet will recognise a previously uploaded but banned image as a duplicate if someone else tries to upload it.
Every second the artist spends doing all of this is time they aren't spending relaxing or drawing more work.
It's demoralising.
Can't really argue with this. Although it's also time consuming and potentially demoralising for an artist to have to answer a hundred and one requests from different people who want to upload their art to these sites every single time they upload a work. Which is what would happen every time someone uploaded a high quality piece of art from a popular copyright if everyone followed this approach, particularly if they then took a while to get back to the requests.
Artists actively and constantly complain about art theft in both English and Japanese, but only western artists seem to be allowed to have these opinions taken seriously by fellow fans (and even then those requests are ignored by other fans).
I've never seen any difference in treatment between western and eastern artists myself, and any difference in treatment would be on an individual level rather than an institutionalised one.
Why isn't the onus on the takers - the Booru uploaders - rather than the people creating the work? I understand that it takes time to send a pre-written request (or even a suggestion) to the artists rather than just going ahead and taking the work without permission, but it pales in comparison to the time spent drawing even the most simple pencil sketch.
The problem (aside from the one above) is, this isn't enforceable. And if it isn't enforceable then you'll get people uploading it anyway - particularly those who can't speak the artist's language. It would feel bad if I was to send a message to the artist asking for permission and they said no only for someone else to upload the art - or, more likely and arguably worse, if someone else uploaded the art in between me sending a message and receiving a response. As I indicated above, my preferred approach would be to upload the art and then send the artist a message saying that I had done this and how to stop this happening in the future if they don't like it. But in practice this would just result in me getting banned from pixiv.
And what would happen if I got permission and all that and then decided partway through uploading that the image wasn't good enough after all? This happens to me a lot.
I've seen enough to know that a lot of users do consider the artist's wishes on uploading, and that uploaders generally consider this FAR more than your average user, but also to know that there are those who either don't care, who prioritise other things to the exclusion of the artist's wishes, or who simply don't know how to ask for permission. It's sad that this is the case but there's not a lot that an individual can do except ensure that their own way of doing things does consider the wishes of the artist.
Incidentally, there are people out there who do send requests for every single image they upload. They don't tend to upload much as a result, though.
I'm sorry to hear that you've had bad experiences with this. Personally I'm not that fussed if this sort of thing happens to me so long as it is properly credited/sourced, and would actually be more frustrated if someone bugged me every single time one or another stat that I've worked out or posted got used. At the end of the day I guess we're both just assuming that others have the same position as we do unless we're specifically told otherwise.
