Types of otaku that annoy you?

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What group in the Anime fandom makes you ashamed to be an Otaku?

Dub-haters- These guys pick the dumbest reasons to bash dubs. "Goku doesn't sound like a ten-year-old girl," "Naruto sounds just as annoying as he did in Japanese, but in English, it doesn't work," "J. Michael Tatum has to have his balls dragging on the floor to be the perfect Sebastian," etc. They even go so far as to say that dubs completely alter the story. I ask this: have you watched every dub ever? I'm surprised they don't boycott conventions because dub actors appear in them.

The other weeaboos- While Dub-haters are technically 'weeaboos,' you've also got the ones that use Japanese words every other word. Pick one language and stick with it!

Tokusatsu Purists- The people who think Haim Saban is the devil for not making "Power Rangers" a carbon copy of "Super Sentnai." If we wanted a carbon copy, they might as well just dub it. Let's not kid ourselves: you wouldn't even know about SS if it weren't for PR.

DBZ fanboys- The people who think "Dragon Ball" is the greatest thing since sliced bread just because it was their 'first anime.' They dismiss every anime after it as a rip-off, yet they deny that DB isn't that original either. Goku's origin story is basically Superman's, the energy attacks were done in "Fist of the North Star," Tien's cloning technique has been done before in "X-Men" (and yet they still think "Naruto" stole it from DBZ), and the entire first story arc was knocked off of "Journey to the West." They also feel compelled to think Goku is the god of anime and can beat anyone. Congratulations, you're proud of Goku being an over-powered Gary Stu.

Yaoi Fangirls- First, I like to say as a Yuri fan, I'd rather hate to sound like a hypocrite. If you prefer Naruto packing Sasuke's fudge, then go right ahead. But then you have the ones that are in complete denial that a male character is straight. They think just being friends is enough to justify that a character is gay. Then you have the ones who hate pretty much anything with a vagina. Female characters in Yaoi fanfics are always depicted as vile, homophobic skanks who want the main characters for themselves, and 9/10 times, it ends with them dying horribly.

Femenists- If it's not the Yaoi fantasies that make a female character despised, it's the fact that the character dares not to be a blood-thirsty killer. Just because they don't kill things, doesn't mean they're useless. There's other ways to be useful. Orihime from "Bleach" is a healer, Kagome from "InuYasha" is a MacGuffin tracker, and Kairi from "Kingdom Hearts" saved Sora from spoiler[being a heartless]. Of course, it's always 'kill something or get lost.' Are you guys seriously thinking that if a series has fighting, every single character has to fight? That isn't a rhetorical question. Every time I ask this, no one answers.
 
I'll give you Dub haters and Weeaboos, and I have no opinion on Toku Fans and Yaoi Fangirls, but I don't really consider 'person who wants a female character to be a bloodthirsty killer' as you so put it is considered a feminist at all, that and the characters you listed normally get criticised for being bland characters and terrible representations of women in their respected shows.

Also, for the Dragonball = Superman theory to work, There would have to be a story where Superman turns into a monkey. Which there is none.


And now I've probably opened the floodgates to a long debate on Gender Issues. God help us all.
 
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You guys obviously know a lot more otaku type people than me.

I have no problem with any of the above as I haven't met any such people.

I would argue that some dubs do slightly alter stories though?
 
@OP.

Dub Haters: I completely understand where you coming from. I like watching dubs but I also watch the Japanese language track.
What I dislike about those that hate dubs is that they will refuse to watch it and then call it rubbish without actually watching it in the first place - claiming that it is not the original intent or meaning of the anime series in question.

Weeaboos - Well isn't this a degatory term? Not all of us that watch anime put kawaii desu at the end of every sentence because everything is sugoi ne?

Tokusatsu Purists - I don't think I've come across very many so cannot comment.

DBZ fanboys - It is the probably the shounen jump anime and of course there are going to be hardcore fans. Maybe you should update this to Naruto fanboys who hasn't seen an anime older than their beloved series.

Yaoi Fangirls - I'm not a yaoi fangirl but a yuri fangirl and can generally see where you are coming from. However, you put forward your views in a very blunt way which might come across as being inflammatory. I don't get the appeal of the usual stereotypical uke and seme style characters that go torture each other. Each to their own.

Feminists - I'm not sure what you are getting at here but wouldn't it be good if there was more anime where there are good strong female characters (doesn't necessarily have to be about killing) that don't end up being a muse or kidnapped for the male character development? Stating the healing role for females as something good is why there are feminists in the first place. Think about it.
 
I think i'm starting to turn in to a dub "avoider", but you won't ever hear me labasting a VA, a dub track or people who watch it dubbed.

Up until about 6 months ago everything I watched (when the option was available) was with the English Dub, but I went through a bit of a Korean/Japanese Blu-ray binge and it made me realise, I watch those with subtitles and I would hate to watch something like Yellow Sea with a dub, so why not just watch anime in it's original form.

That's not to say I hate English DUbs, shows i've originally watched with the dub and enjoyed, I will watch with the dub, but going forward I think i'm just going to stick with subs. It also makes things much easier for when titles inevitably are released sub only (NISA titles etc).
 
Feminists piss me off.

I'm all for equality and all that stuff but feminists just take it to far.
You see women rescue men and as a lead in a series like e.g that chick for black lagoon
 
britguy said:
I think i'm starting to turn in to a dub "avoider", but you won't ever hear me labasting a VA, a dub track or people who watch it dubbed.
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I tend to avoid watching dubs on dvds/blu-rays that I have purchased when I watch it for the first time. If I watch anything again I may watch the dub version.

For the record - when I go see foreign live-action movies at the cinema (or see them on TV) they tend to be subtitled versions as well, why should I watch anime any differently?
 
mangaman74 said:
For the record - when I go see foreign live-action movies at the cinema (or see them on TV) they tend to be subtitled versions as well, why should I watch anime any differently?
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There's no reason you should do anything you don't want to. But it's worth mentioning that dubs of cartoons are nowhere near as distracting as dubs of live action movies. Indeed, all anime is dubbed regardless of which language you're watching.

Now an attempt to steer this thread away from the inevitable dub/sub war...

Maybe it's because I'm getting old, or maybe it's because I avoid the kinds of places where the most annoying people congregate, but I've adopted a live and let live attitude in recent years. I still get annoyed when people commit paragraph after paragraph to moaning about a show they haven't seen, and people who complain about review scores not being high enough/reviewers being biased against this or that type of anime will always earn my scorn - but I'm mostly at peace these days.

/meditates
 
I think hate is a bit of a strong word to be honest. But then I don't consider myself otaku either ( as I don't like to be pigeon holed whatsoever), so maybe I don't count. Much like Four Lions, I just don't have any experience with such people. And if I did see any of the topics in your post come up for discussion I don't think I'd pay them any real attention, as I'm simply not at all interested in the minute detail of the otaku sub culture.

Feminists piss me off.
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Init. Woman know your place!

Seriously though AF, not all feminists take it too far. Some of the extreme ones probably do, but they are a minority.

Not to further turn this into a debate on gender, but a huge amount of anime does depict women very awfully, and seem to be able to get away with it with little to no challenge. Not that I'm saying that women are dipicted perfectly on British TV, but you have to think that if anime was properly shown on our TV channels as it is in Japan, there would be constant (and often well deserved) **** storms over the depiction of women.

I can't really comment on the "blood thirsty killer" thing, but I kinda wish there were more feminists in anime fandom, as then we might start getting better representation of the female.

Congratulations, you're proud of Goku being an over-powered Gary Stu.
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Hey, some of us can't help that we're flawless, baby.
 
I do hate me some dub-haters, but not nearly as much as I hate English dubs themselves.

Seriously, I think "moaners" would be my only category, sometimes it feels like anime fandom has an overly large percentage of them, but then the internet does tend to bring out the moaniest in people.

Was half expecting to see a list of things like "military otaku" and "stamp collectors", though.
 
animefreak17 said:
I'm talking about the extreme ones, sorry I should of said extreme feminists.
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You'll find some of the more extreme ones aren't actually feminists, despite self-identifying as such, and are oft despised by real feminists almost as much as the things they fight against due to the harm such people can cause to the movement. Probably best just to ignore them.

On the other hand if they start talking about things like the feminist themes in the works of Virginia Woolf then listen hard, you'll probably learn a thing or two :)
 
I could spend all day giving my views on the Dub Haters (and part of that Weaboo's/elitists), but these days I can never be bothered with it, it has been a very, very long time since we have seen a 'badly dubbed anime', there are maybe one or two shows which are inferior to that of the Japanese Soundtrack, but there is absolutely Zilch released these days that I personally can attribute to being 'unlistenable'. Most shows released in English these day infact either equal or exceed their Japanese counter-parts. Anyway it all just boils down to a mutual agreement of personal preference to be boring about it.

It's true though I always find the Dub arguments kind of irrelevant due to the fact you quite literally have the animation first and if you take that animation and stick any language on it, it's dubbed regardless of where it comes from.
 
But when it's animated it is animated to a script in a certain language. There's still a 'native dub'. I'm not sure it'salways true it's completely animated first either, I'm sure I've seen a few 'making of's for movies where they touched it up aftyerwards but I forget which, I imagine it might be rare though.

I do find some modern dubs borderline unlistenable, but I wouldn't blanket say I hate all dubs, that's just idiocy. I also think the only reason we don't find the Japanese dubs unlistenable is because we're less familiar with how they should sound naturally and therefore aren't as quick to spot hammy, OTT and outright terrible acting from them.

Anyway, isn't anyone who gets so wound up at people hating dubs just as silly as someone who gets wound up over dubs?
 
I don't dislike people for their opinions, I dislike them for their attitudes and how they express said opinion. As such, anyone has the potential to annoy me regardless of their views.

Also, obvious troll is obvious.
 
OP has one post. It's a potentially divisive rant drawing attention to some of the most negative and/or controvertial aspects of anime fandom, the audiece of this board. If I'm guilty of connecting the dots prematurely then forgive me, but that doesn't strike me as the best way to endear yourself to a new community.
 
ayase said:
OP has one post. It's a potentially divisive rant drawing attention to some of the most negative and/or controvertial aspects of anime fandom, the audiece of this board. If I'm guilty of connecting the dots prematurely then forgive me, but that doesn't strike me as the best way to endear yourself to a new community.
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My favourite bit, and the biggest piece of evidence, is it is their only post.
 
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