things that u wished happened but never happened or did it?
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CitizenGeek
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Warmaster said:
Now, that just seems like hyperbole, really! Fair enough you didn't like it, but to say it's one of the "worst" is just a tad sensationalist. I think you should watch the series again, and pay closer attention to what's going on. The fact you knew nothing about Eva before you watched it means you probably just took it for "another mecha" series - which is the wrong way to approach Eva
The ending of the TV series isn't all that good, sure, but that's what End of Evangelion is for. As for the monster of the week complaint - err, what? It's not like; an Angel attacks, it's defeated, end of. There's always significant character and sub-plot development with each Angel attack and I think you'd realize this if you watched it again ^_^Lupus Inu said:
It's really not like that, Lupus Inu - Most anime fans don't appreciate Eva like they ought to! ;p
I'm gonna skip an Eva debate this time.
I would love to see a prequel to Stand Alone Complex which focuses on Togusa's time in the Japanese police up until the the time he was selected to join section 9. I think it could be a really interesting series with a different cast of primary characters but this time Togusa in the lead role throughout. To get picked for section 9 he must have had some exceptional qualities and it would be nice to see how he caught the Major's eye, give more insight into his family and get a glimpse of the people he used to work with.
This could either work as a movie or as a series. To be honest I'd prefer the idea of a series as there are an endless amount of Stand Alone stories that could be done without retreading on the same ground as SAC making it a new show in it's own right without just being an extention of SAC.
I guess this stems from recently rewatching the first gig of SAC and finding myself still as interested in the Togusa centred investigation episodes as I ever was (Episode 4, Episode 20 and so on). That's not to say that the other characters are less interesting but for me Togusa's investigation skills make him stand out to me.
Not gonna happen but it would be fine with me if it did. Who knows, maybe if there's a 3rd series they'll delve into Togusa's beginnings like they did with others in the 2nd.
I would love to see a prequel to Stand Alone Complex which focuses on Togusa's time in the Japanese police up until the the time he was selected to join section 9. I think it could be a really interesting series with a different cast of primary characters but this time Togusa in the lead role throughout. To get picked for section 9 he must have had some exceptional qualities and it would be nice to see how he caught the Major's eye, give more insight into his family and get a glimpse of the people he used to work with.
This could either work as a movie or as a series. To be honest I'd prefer the idea of a series as there are an endless amount of Stand Alone stories that could be done without retreading on the same ground as SAC making it a new show in it's own right without just being an extention of SAC.
I guess this stems from recently rewatching the first gig of SAC and finding myself still as interested in the Togusa centred investigation episodes as I ever was (Episode 4, Episode 20 and so on). That's not to say that the other characters are less interesting but for me Togusa's investigation skills make him stand out to me.
Not gonna happen but it would be fine with me if it did. Who knows, maybe if there's a 3rd series they'll delve into Togusa's beginnings like they did with others in the 2nd.
CitizenGeek
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Sy said:
I like the idea of a Togusa series. However I'm not sure a SAC sans The Major, Batou and Aramaki would be good in practice!
Probably because they still hold Naruto in high regard and are too afraid to try anything not in Shounen Jump big three [formally known as "The big two" in America.]CitizenGeek said:
But this is straying off topic, seriously, also think:
FMA should be completely re-done and follow the manga with an 13 episode OVA then take a brake and do the same again... impossible but I'd like it. [Yes Sy, that would include the generic heartless manga Scar. ;p]
Or just see what went down after the movie just called Full Metal... Alchemist!? Like from Negima... to Negima!?
CitizenGeek
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Lupus Inu said:
Well, I think the FMA anime is superior in every single way. The manga is very good, and I like the idea of a series of OVAs based on FMA.
The anime ruined the series by making sure they could NEVER go back unless there's more gates or some crap, hopefully there is. Oh and the movie has another generic throw-away shounen villan. -_-
Honestly, the anime could have been so much better, though I liked how Martha actually LIVED for a while and when she got pwnt it was so much more emotional then like the manga, and the FMA anime ending isn't too bad, but the movie pretty much destroys it. As well as the epic Greed fight which lasted like 2 minutes which was well worth it.
Honestly, the anime could have been so much better, though I liked how Martha actually LIVED for a while and when she got pwnt it was so much more emotional then like the manga, and the FMA anime ending isn't too bad, but the movie pretty much destroys it. As well as the epic Greed fight which lasted like 2 minutes which was well worth it.
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It wouold depend on the quality of the new cast of characters. There could be some very interesting characters developed with the new setting. Also I could see The Major in a recurring role throughout the series run, sort of watching over Togusa like she does in SAC (she seems very protective of him to a point).CitizenGeek said:
CitizenGeek said:Warmaster said:
Now, that just seems like hyperbole, really! Fair enough you didn't like it, but to say it's one of the "worst" is just a tad sensationalist. I think you should watch the series again, and pay closer attention to what's going on. The fact you knew nothing about Eva before you watched it means you probably just took it for "another mecha" series - which is the wrong way to approach Eva
First of all I did not say 'worst' I said 'worse' I can name 3 series off the top of my head which I consider worse than Eva - Heat guy J, The Third (marginally) and Strawberry Panic, with others such as Cheeky Angel and Fantastic Children being of similar mediocre quality, as well as lots of films and OVAs, So It is not the nadir of Anime by any means (from my Experience that belongs either to some unrememberal Hentai, or possibly Virus or Kai Do Maru or summat)
However they have not been hailed as the best thing since sliced bread either
Secondly a series should be self contained. At the time (2002/03) I had no access to EoE and the series was it, just as it was it to people in the mid ninties. Taken alone it is a terrible ending, and taking it alone is what one must take it as. I have not watched EoE, it may be amazing, I don't know, and I am not one to say something is rubbish unless I have seen it. But the series is poor in general, terrible in the ending.
And as for taking it as 'another mecha' series, what is wrong with that? I am probably one of relitively few people who saw Eva since it origionally aired who watched it without the 'expectation of greatness' I honestly did not know anything about it, and when you know nothing about something like this, the show itself has to impress, and to me it never really did at all. You should never have to approach a series in a certain way, you watch as it is given and make your judgement. My judgement I have said and I stand by it.
Finally, as for Hyperbole, personally a lot of things said about this show includes it, but these are my honest opinions, take it or leave it.
I suppose it is similar to Sy - I know he dislikes the Miyazaki/Ghibli films. He has his reasons, I respect them even if I disagree with them, as I think they are generally very good and sometimes astounding. Each to their own I suppose.
*Replying Rant Over*
Ice Climber
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Ice Climber said:
I wish that Tenjho Tenge wasn't so bogged down in flashback and that Sourichiro didn't get owned so much.
Ice Climber said:
hopeful_monster
Thousand Master
Damn this thread is going to keep me going for ages.
. Though it may surprise many people I also disagree (though not as strongly as everybody else), but my wish for Eva is that Re-Take was the 'official' ending. It's a doujinshi that fits almost seamlessly with the anime and movies and delivers an ending superior to both. (PM me for more details).
Agree with the wishes for different ending movies to Nadesico and FMA (you should never mix fantasy and reality).
Also wish that Mahoromatic's ending was not the Gianax ending it was, and was the manga's ending (it seemed they got the gist of what was going to happen and made it up in the darkest and screwed up way). :evil:
A complete remake of the Seikai trilogy. The Manga and Light novels were great, the anime is as lifeless as ... well my love life ( which makes Tatooine look verdant).
That there was more Azumanga Daioh, and it was as good as the rest of it.
Kurau's first episode had been stretched at least over two episodes. It felt too rushed.
and the big two
1. There where no filler or recap episodes
2. Everyone watched Rahxephon BEFORE Eva
I'm sure Ark is collecting the kindlingCitizenGeek said:
. Though it may surprise many people I also disagree (though not as strongly as everybody else), but my wish for Eva is that Re-Take was the 'official' ending. It's a doujinshi that fits almost seamlessly with the anime and movies and delivers an ending superior to both. (PM me for more details). Agree with the wishes for different ending movies to Nadesico and FMA (you should never mix fantasy and reality).
Also wish that Mahoromatic's ending was not the Gianax ending it was, and was the manga's ending (it seemed they got the gist of what was going to happen and made it up in the darkest and screwed up way). :evil:
A complete remake of the Seikai trilogy. The Manga and Light novels were great, the anime is as lifeless as ... well my love life ( which makes Tatooine look verdant).
That there was more Azumanga Daioh, and it was as good as the rest of it.
Kurau's first episode had been stretched at least over two episodes. It felt too rushed.
and the big two
1. There where no filler or recap episodes
2. Everyone watched Rahxephon BEFORE Eva
hopeful_monster said:
Actually, I would say 'Never mix fantasy and reality if it has only been one or the other for 50 odd episode'
Basically you need to let an audience know the rules of your fantasy very early on. Say first 2/3 episodes in Anime (and preferably in the first) after that it looks bad. Doing it after 50 looks terrible.
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Other stuff after all my Eva moaning.
RoDTV: Either had an entire series being lightweight fun (first 11 episodes of the series) or an entire series being quite dark and twisted (the rest) having the sudden change over, while it worked at the time reasonably well, now seems extremely disjointed and makes me wish the style of the begining carried on till the end.
Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi: Do not insert drama after X amount of episodes of wackiness. It doesn't work. (and Excel Saga even took the piss of it!)
Haibane Renmei: Episodes 4 and 5 - while good on their own, they are the only ones which do not directly contribute to the overarching story. If they did, this amazing series would be even better as one complete 13 episode story.
The Early Manga Video Dubs: Just No!
Elfen Lied: Oh why ruin the horror with unnessisary Fanservice Damnit!
Ghost in the Shell: That ending sucks. Anti Climactic or what?
Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex 1 and 2: The Tachicomas, remove them and you have something amazing, with them you have something reasonable.
Hellsing: New Dub Cast please!
Damn, I'm sounding like a grumpy sod with all these
Then again, that is what a thread like this is for :twisted:hopeful_monster said:
I wholeheartly agree on that one
Speaking of Rah...I wish that the Rahxephon Movie was done differently and was made up of completely new footage (I know that there was some new footage in there but they did rehash a lot of TV footage as well)
I also wish they had made an Akira OVA which dealt with more of the manga matrial and finally that Gundam F91 had got the go ahead to become a full 50 odd ep series like it was suposed to be instead of what it was
Ice Climber
Kiznaiver
Warmaster said:
There is a difference between characters being naked and fanservice.
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Agreed.
I wish there were more episodes of Dragon Half.
Ice Climber said:
And there is a difference to being naked due to a plot device and being naked with an innocent bloke trying to dress you when the girl who fancies him happens to walk in (the worst instance, though not the only one)
True it is not Negima Manga level, but it took the edginess away a bit for me.