So, any Christians here who want to explain something to me?

Ryo Chan

Symphogear
Ok, i understand the basic idea about Easter is to celebrate the death and rebirth of Jesus.

So if that is the case, why is it that Easter changes dates, surely you don't change the day you die?

The only possiblity i can think of is that Jesus was really a girl named Haruhi who has mastered time travel but then, i'm 1 confused little boy.
 
I've learnt not to question the church, or religion in general for that matter otherwise we'll be here all day.

It doesn't need to make sense, you just do it! :lol:
 
Well no one really knew when jesus died an exact date they just know the round about years and events leading up to it.
I believes it's something to do with the moons postioning.
 
On that note, can anyone explain why the hell Mother's Day changes? I totally forgot it was Mother's Day until the day before it happened.
 
Gacha said:
Well no one really knew when jesus died an exact date they just know the round about years and events leading up to it.
I believes it's something to do with the moons postioning.

Yeah its something to do with ancient moon charts...........or something^^
 
Most old religious dates are based on a calendar which predates our own and doesn't work to the same number of days etc, so "translating" the date each year might mean it maps differently to our days of the year. Another similar thing is Chinese New Year. Notice how that moves all over the place every time? In the old old days, people used lunar calendars to measure time passing, because a moon's cycle is around the length of a month (I say around, because our modern UK months are of varying lengths to keep the year in sync - but originally it was usually based on the moon).

That and with all the translating over the years nobody really has a clue when Jesus would have originally died but they try to tie it into Passover etc to go with the story, which also used the old calendars originally (Passover being one of many Jewish festivals referenced in the New Testament due to the setting). Straightening out measuring dates in calendars has taken civilisation thousands of years and we still don't have it all perfect.

I'm an atheist.

R
 
More information specific to Easter (Wikipedia):

"The main Christian moving feast has been Easter. Several different ways of computing the date of Easter were used in early Christian times, but eventually the unified rule was accepted that Easter would be celebrated on the Sunday after the first (ecclesiastical) full moon on or after the day of the (ecclesiastical, not actual) vernal equinox, which was established to fall on 21 March.

The Catholic Church made it, therefore, an objective to keep the day of the (actual) vernal equinox on or near 21 March, and the calendar year has to be synchronized with the tropical year as measured by the mean interval between vernal equinoxes. From about AD 1000 the mean tropical year (measured in SI days) has become increasingly shorter than this mean interval between vernal equinoxes (measured in actual days), though the interval between successive vernal equinoxes measured in SI days has become increasingly longer."

The thing is, our year is approximately one full solar orbit of our planet, I believe. And a month is a moon's phase. Only, there aren't exactly the right number of days to marry the two neatly, so it's all completely jumbled. Add in the fact that the Jews originally used a different calendar to work it out and the fact that no matter how you do it you lose consistency with months, seasons or the solar year itself, you're pretty much screwed. So even though the day you die is the same, its anniversary is a rather arbitrary date - whether you're Jesus, the Invisible Pink Unicorn, or an anime fan.

R
 
Gacha said:
Well no one really knew when jesus died an exact date they just know the round about years and events leading up to it.
I believes it's something to do with the moons postioning.
When I 1st saw that, I was thinking about the shape of the moon...
Then the image of Jesus becoming a werewolf poped right in there. :p

I don't really care when it comes (though a set date WOULD be nice), but I'll still buy and receive the eggs.
 
Yes, it's to do with the moon's positioning, and has no correlation to the date of Jesus's death. Same with Christmas. Both were celebrations that originally had nothing to do with Christianity (Christmas to a lesser extent).

I don't put much emphasis on Easter - it's nice to allow a week to focus fully on the passion, but when it comes down to it, it's something that should be just as important to Christians all year round. Easter is just bunnies and chocolate eggs to most people, anyway.
 
What I don't understand is Good Friday: an innocent man is given a sham trial, nailed to two pieces of wood and left to die. What's good about that?!

As far as I can tell, Easter and Christmas day were set on the same days as older pagan festivals, so they were easier for the heathens to remember after they were converted to Christianity!
 
Martin said:
What I don't understand is Good Friday: an innocent man is given a sham trial, nailed to two pieces of wood and left to die. What's good about that?!

Well, I reckon it's celebrated because Jesus "suffered" for our sins on that day. What I don't understand is the notion that Jesus "willingly" died; Jesus fled the Romans, Judas ratted him out, he was found hiding in the Garden of Gethsemane ... where's the willingness there? :s
 
CitizenGeek said:
he was found hiding in the Garden of Gethsemane ... where's the willingness there? :s
He needed some private time, being the son of God he can't exactly go around getting laid, y'know.
 
-Random- Why is easter represented by a bunny? Does it say in the bible jesus likes bunnies? Especially ones that lay eggs?
 
it's probably a representation of new life, but personally i think the rabbit is just for the little kids so they don't have to go into the deep religous meenings of it.
 
Spyro201 said:
-Random- Why is easter represented by a bunny? Does it say in the bible jesus likes bunnies? Especially ones that lay eggs?

I'm pretty sure the Easter bunny (and Easter eggs) have nothing to do with the Bible or Christianity ...
 
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