Just seen this at ANN
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... stributors
They just don't like us do they? :cry:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... stributors
They just don't like us do they? :cry:
Otaku-san said:so what does this mean in the long run. no france or german dub/subs?
unellmay said:Otaku-san said:so what does this mean in the long run. no france or german dub/subs?
Why?
Otaku-san said:unellmay said:Otaku-san said:so what does this mean in the long run. no france or german dub/subs?
Why?
cause i asked, thats why
Emphasis on "yet". We will just have to shout louder from out little speck of pollen, We are HERE! :wink:ayase said:I'm guessing it means the Japanese companies think the European mainland has real potential as a growth market for anime and manga...
But not so much the UK. Yet.
Mohawk52 said:Emphasis on "yet". We will just have to shout louder from out little speck of pollen, We are HERE! :wink:ayase said:I'm guessing it means the Japanese companies think the European mainland has real potential as a growth market for anime and manga...
But not so much the UK. Yet.
How so? What makes our market such a nettle to grasp comparied to France, and Germany, or any other European country?beez_andrew said:Mohawk52 said:Emphasis on "yet". We will just have to shout louder from out little speck of pollen, We are HERE! :wink:ayase said:I'm guessing it means the Japanese companies think the European mainland has real potential as a growth market for anime and manga...
But not so much the UK. Yet.
It means a number of inconsequential things to be honest - I won't go into boring details here really but assuming all proceeds this means very little change except possibly my condolences to some colleagues over at Kaze (long story)!
Viz already have a UK subsidiary - it's called Manga Entertainment now . So they recognize the value of the UK market - moreso they recognize the pitfalls of throwing themselves in here as opposed to what they do now.
- Andrew,
Beez Entertainment
Mohawk52 said:How so? What makes our market such a nettle to grasp comparied to France, and Germany, or any other European country?beez_andrew said:Mohawk52 said:Emphasis on "yet". We will just have to shout louder from out little speck of pollen, We are HERE! :wink:ayase said:I'm guessing it means the Japanese companies think the European mainland has real potential as a growth market for anime and manga...
But not so much the UK. Yet.
It means a number of inconsequential things to be honest - I won't go into boring details here really but assuming all proceeds this means very little change except possibly my condolences to some colleagues over at Kaze (long story)!
Viz already have a UK subsidiary - it's called Manga Entertainment now . So they recognize the value of the UK market - moreso they recognize the pitfalls of throwing themselves in here as opposed to what they do now.
- Andrew,
Beez Entertainment
Mohawk52 said:How so? What makes our market such a nettle to grasp comparied to France, and Germany, or any other European country?beez_andrew said:It means a number of inconsequential things to be honest - I won't go into boring details here really but assuming all proceeds this means very little change except possibly my condolences to some colleagues over at Kaze (long story)!
Viz already have a UK subsidiary - it's called Manga Entertainment now . So they recognize the value of the UK market - moreso they recognize the pitfalls of throwing themselves in here as opposed to what they do now.
- Andrew,
Beez Entertainment
I'd say that the funi / rev deal failed for revelation ineptude to release.Mohawk52 said:I was under the impression that the reason Revelation has tanked is because FUNimation pulled the feeder tube from their mouth, so to speak. Are you suggesting the same could happen to Manga UK? There are so few UK distributors that if either Viz, or FUNi pulled out of Manga, they would either have to go back to MVM, or Revelation, or start their own shop like your company did, or abandon the UK market altogether, God forbid.
Oh I agree that Rev didn't do itself any favours either, but still having said that AFAIK all of the titles that are left unfinished by Rev will remain that way, unless Manga do the kind thing and pick them up where Rev left off, and seeing as Manga are only pushing box sets at the moment, that isn't going to happen anytime soon, if at all. So basically, what I understand from Andrew is that there simply isn't a big enough UK player for the Japanese companies like these two to walk in and make an offer that can't be refused. I didn't hold them as that big a deal to be able to cock their noses so nonchalantly at us.chaos said:I'd say that the funi / rev deal failed for revelation ineptude to release.
it seemed to me taht Rev didn't had the required throughput, logistics or partners to support a steady flow of releases.And ultimately, if you take 2 years to release something, it becomes increasingly difficult to market yoru series.
I dind't buy a few of their titles because of the slow pace of their releases. I was waiting for them to at least release all volumes of their singles before considering buying any and now, I won't buy from them, simply because over an year wait for a single to be released is a lack of commitment to fans.
Mohawk52 said:So basically, what I understand from Andrew is that there simply isn't a big enough UK player for the Japanese companies like these two to walk in and make an offer that can't be refused. I didn't hold them as that big a deal to be able to cock their noses so nonchalantly at us.
Noratav said:Mohawk52 said:So basically, what I understand from Andrew is that there simply isn't a big enough UK player for the Japanese companies like these two to walk in and make an offer that can't be refused. I didn't hold them as that big a deal to be able to cock their noses so nonchalantly at us.
There is a big enough player: namely Manga UK. The difference between them and these two companies is that Manga are owned by a company the same size as (if not larger than) the two Japanese companies combined. Whereas, Kaze and Anime Virtual are both independent companies, and a lot smaller.
Neither Shogakukan or Shueisha are big enough to make an offer that Starz Media (who own Manga) can't refuse. Particularly because Starz are themselves owned by a very large American media conglomerate called Liberty Media.
Besides, why would either Funi or Viz cut ties with Manga? They have by far the best distribution network of all the anime companies and bigger brand recognition than some Hollywood studios.
Mohawk52 said:Still it feels like we are treated like third world citizens of the anime and manga world, to me. (sigh)
Add another one there.beez_andrew said:..a set that is priced at 350 Euros for the complete City Hunter universe sells > 3,000 units in France.