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<blockquote data-quote="Neil.T" data-source="post: 612231" data-attributes="member: 4160">I feel like I want to wade in with this point a bit because I very much have a stake in it.I remember some years ago when I first came across the term &quot;involuntarily celibate&quot;, and it was like a eureka moment: for the first time, it felt like I had an absolutely perfect description of my situation. The very next thing I learned was that the term was associated with misogynists. Well, that was short-lived, I thought.I'd found something that was like a little light in the darkness, only for it to be almost instantaneously snuffed out. It just angers me that a perfectly valid description that could perhaps help someone better cope with their situation and maybe even open a pathway to helpful discussion between similarly-identifying individuals has ended up with a poisonous reputation and is reduced to acting as yet another &quot;warning flag&quot; against vulnerable individuals, in turn forcing those more sensitive souls who might use the term to have to bury it to avoid negative association and closing down that potential pathway.That kind of thing actually makes me despair. Way to go, humankind. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="👏" title="Clapping hands&nbsp; &nbsp; :clap:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.5/png/unicode/64/1f44f.png" data-shortname=":clap:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neil.T, post: 612231, member: 4160"] I feel like I want to wade in with this point a bit because I very much have a stake in it. I remember some years ago when I first came across the term "involuntarily celibate", and it was like a eureka moment: for the first time, it felt like I had an absolutely perfect description of my situation. The very next thing I learned was that the term was associated with misogynists. [I]Well, [/I]that[I] was short-lived[/I], I thought. I'd found something that was like a little light in the darkness, only for it to be almost instantaneously snuffed out. It just angers me that a perfectly valid description that could perhaps help someone better cope with their situation and maybe even open a pathway to helpful discussion between similarly-identifying individuals has ended up with a poisonous reputation and is reduced to acting as yet another "warning flag" against vulnerable individuals, in turn forcing those more sensitive souls who might use the term to have to bury it to avoid negative association and closing down that potential pathway. That kind of thing actually makes me despair. Way to go, humankind. 👏 [/QUOTE]

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