Raindown alienation, Leave this country...

ayase

State Alchemist
I was asked in another thread what my ideal society would be like... Well, now you get to find out which is yours! Use this handy tool to find your perfect country, then post your top five and any reactions. Out of interest, also post where your current country of residence comes on your list.

1 - Bahamas
2 - Chile
3 - Switzerland
4 - United States
5 - Canada


The UK came 31st.

Canada and the US don't surprise me at all, nor does Switzerland really; all have a high degree of individual freedom which is the main thing I value in a society. The top two I didn't expect, but I certainly wouldn't complain about living in the Bahamas. Chile I know very little about, perhaps I should start looking...
 
1 - Finland
2 - Singapore
3 - Denmark
4 - New Zealand
5 - Sweden

13 - UK

I am disappointed that you can only say how much you want a particular right or that you do not care. For instance, my stance on guns is not that I do not care about owning one, but that I specifically do not want others to own them, therefore I oppose it, not "don't care".
 
Eh, this seems totally broken by the seven countries that only have a rating for freedom of speech, no? I do agree with it that I don't want to live in Kosovo, though.

edit: ah, it helps a little if you don't use any "don't care"s, and at least put "not very important". Still massively swayed in favor of places that just don't have many ratings, though.

edit2: OK, I think the most helpful thing seems to be to treat it as a binary choice of "not very important" or "crucial", which gives me this list:

New Zealand
Switzerland
Singapore
Australia
Canada

With the UK 13th.

I'm interested to know why the Bahamas is so high on ayase's list.
 
the test is kinda limited imo, but anyway:

1 Netherlands
2 Finland
3 Canada
4 New Zealand
5 Australia

8 United Kingdom

edit: my answers for reference:

property rights - somewhat important (though im not quite sure what they are, im assuming whether you can buy a house? I guess that may someday be useful, lol)

freedom from taxes - not very important (okay, im a student atm, but personally, I think paying taxes is good as it means more money for schools and hospitals and stuff)

freedom of expression - crucial (fairly self explanitory, people should have the right to express themselves)

limited government - not very important (kinda the same thinking as taxes, I think its good for the government to provide public services)

gun rights - not very important (I think they should be illegal)

drug rights - somewhat important (I think it would be better if they are legal so they can be controlled, taxed and regulated (and so we can better treat addicts))

freedom from corruption - crucial (corruption is bad...)

freedom from inflation - not very important (dont really know much about inflation tbh, so couldnt really say more than that)

bussiness freedom - not very important (I think regulation on bussiness is good, kinda goes with stopping corruption in a way)
 
Rank and Country:
1 Nauru
2 Liechtenstein
3 Switzerland
4 Netherlands
5 Canada
6 Micronesia
7 United States
8 Monaco
9 Australia
10 Bahamas

XD Wow, I'm practically Aussie, but it's quite the contrast when Nauru is 1st and Austalia is 9th... Having Bahama's in there too is good.
UK is 21st... Hmm I might be deported soon...
 
ilmaestro said:
I'm interested to know why the Bahamas is so high on ayase's list.
Well here's how I got my list:

Property Rights - Very Important
Freedom from Taxes - Crucial
Freedom of Expression - Crucial
Limited Government - Crucial
Gun Rights - Somewhat Important
Drug Rights - Somewhat Important
Freedom from Corruption - Not Very Important
Freedom from Inflation - Somewhat Important
Business Freedom - Somewhat Important

Mutsumi said:
I am disappointed that you can only say how much you want a particular right or that you do not care. For instance, my stance on guns is not that I do not care about owning one, but that I specifically do not want others to own them, therefore I oppose it, not "don't care".
Well, deciding what others can and can't do isn't generally regarded as a right (unless of course you're a politician). You're choosing what is important to you that you are allowed to do, not what you don't want others doing.
 
Project-2501 said:
Hmm, crap options really. Its basically aimed at yanks and their warped idea of 'freedom'.
If there are less restrictions placed upon you, then you have more freedom. Surely that's a universal truth?
 
1 Iceland
2 Canada
3 Finland
4 Switzerland
5 New Zealand

UK 11th. I like the UK though. It has huge problems, but it's still one of the better places to live and the problems are manageable compared to a lot of places. The page seemed a bit vague as some things I actually wanted to be restricted but the lowest option still sounded weak compared to my thoughts.

ayase said:
Well, deciding what others can and can't do isn't generally regarded as a right (unless of course you're a politician). You're choosing what is important to you that you are allowed to do, not what you don't want others doing.

I sort of agree with Mutsumi here in that, for example, it's better for me if other people don't use non-prescribed drugs as then I don't get so many nutters getting into weird fights outside my house and leaving needles along the side of the road. So I'd rather live somewhere it was actually restricted more, even if it doesn't personally directly affect my actions. My environment is still important to me even if it's not something I actively participate in. I'm a shy, quiet, gentle person.

I like freedom in many areas but some freedoms when offered to irresponsible people just make life worse for others - the things I'm against are predominantly areas where I feel that allowing the freedom has a detrimental effect on other humans. So I'm more than happy to sacrifice some of my own liberty if it makes my life better overall. If this does not make sense it's because I'm exhausted today :(

If I was going to move anywhere realistically it would probably just be to another part of the UK. I've travelled a lot and there's no place like home.

R
 
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