Operation: Black March

Tachi

Mushi-shi
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I will be taking part in this, i don't think it is right that the U.S.A believes they can monopolise the planet and decide to implement punishment for breaching laws that haven't been passed, import those who do not live in the USA but try to charge them under US laws and censor the internet.

Although this is a Anonymous directive, it does not involve anything illegal so i believe there's nothing wrong with posting this here, if there is a problem can someone PM me. Thanks.
 
This is a good idea in principle, but presuming this idea took off, a month without sales could really screw over local independant book and record shops. If people are going to take part I'd ask that they exempt local businesses from their boycott. The likes of Amazon can take the pain, they can't.

I think in this country we should also be putting pressure on the government to renegotiate / scrap the extradition treaty we have with the US. It is a ridiculous notion that you can break US law without leaving the UK (or any other country for that matter) and be sent there to be prosecuted.
 
'Don't buy any videogame'

March is Mass Effect 3 month. I would never have the self control for that.


Regardless of how weak I am, seems like a good idea.
 
I agree with you Ayase, small businesses will feel the effect majorly if this does actually go viral and happens throughout march.

I hope that it sends a clear message to the companies that the people of this world are fed up with one nations government bullying and trying to dominate not only the real world but now the internet.

What doesn't help is, like you say; the way the rest of the worlds governments bend over and take it up the rear from america without fighting back, where's our stiff upper lip gone? Our backbone? Down with the ferrets in charge, bring back real men and women who stand for what they believe.

Resurrect Churchill, i'm pretty sure he's already turning in his grave everyday so he's half alive now anyway.
 
I think it's silly to mix up the Megaupload stuff with the political campaigns as it makes them all seem more affiliated than they are. I don't know how hard the world will be hit by the Megaupload demographic refusing to buy music and games for a month, either *cough*.

I will not be participating, and have already ordered plenty of delicious things which I'd like to own when they ship in March.

R
 
If anything i think the megaupload case opened a can of worms that up until that point alot of people didn't know about or understand.

The idea of people being tried for breaking laws that haven't even been passed is preposterous and to extradite a person from one country to be tried in another country is even more so.

Imagine being shipped off to Dubai because you had pre-marital sex in the UK, it doesn't make sense. However essentially the same thing is happening with regards to downloading a song?

For me personally its not a point of stopping or condoning illegal downloading, but more the censorship of the internet due to 1 nations laws that shouldn't affect anything outside their own nation but in actual fact it will affect the internet for the world. Especially the extradition of people from another country then trying to enforce laws that haven't been passed.
 
All of March?! As much as I like the sentiment, I don't think I'd have the mental ability to resist.

ayase said:
I think in this country we should also be putting pressure on the government to renegotiate / scrap the extradition treaty we have with the US. It is a ridiculous notion that you can break US law without leaving the UK (or any other country for that matter) and be sent there to be prosecuted.
^THIS!
 
The way I see it, Megaupload provided a service; a service which some people used to break the law. This was not the sole aim of the service, nor was that its only use. What the law says should be done is that the people who illegally uploaded copyrighted files to the Megaupload service should be tracked down and individually prosecuted for copyright infringement. But they won't do that, because it's too difficult for them. Much easier just to shut down the service, round up the people who ran it and lock them away instead, eh? Except for the tiny problem that it totally changes the way law is enforced, placing the burden on people who facilitate the breaking of laws rather than those who actually break them. Following this lead, I imagine the FBI's next job is to shut down every US gun store and prosecute the owners for every shooting that has taken place with one of the weapons they sold. And the head of every bank for handling any stolen money, or that obtained fraudulently or through tax evasion. After all, they all provided a service which people used to break the law. Hopefully they'll make photocopiers illegal at the same time because they have the ability to duplicate copyrighted material too.

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They won't be doing that? Oh, I guess it's just an exception to the law being made by the US Government because of the considerable lobbying power of the US entertainment industry then.

With the exception of my local bookshop which I like to support, I will be participating in Black March.
 
Unfortunately, Cambridge was actually featured by The Guardian as the UK's city with the least independent stores; almost all of it belong to chains.
 
Tachi said:
Imagine being shipped off to Dubai because you had pre-marital sex in the UK, it doesn't make sense. However essentially the same thing is happening with regards to downloading a song?

That's rather broken logic. I see what you're saying but it's not exactly the same. I mean Dubai would have no logical reason to extradite the couple, while in the case of this guy he downloaded or uploaded (can't remember the details) a song held by copyrights of a US comapny. I agree that it's not right that he should be extradited, I'm just saying your example is hardly an equal comparison.
 
Sparrowsabre7 said:
Tachi said:
Imagine being shipped off to Dubai because you had pre-marital sex in the UK, it doesn't make sense. However essentially the same thing is happening with regards to downloading a song?

That's rather broken logic. I see what you're saying but it's not exactly the same. I mean Dubai would have no logical reason to extradite the couple, while in the case of this guy he downloaded or uploaded (can't remember the details) a song held by copyrights of a US comapny. I agree that it's not right that he should be extradited, I'm just saying your example is hardly an equal comparison.
What if a Dubai national went on holiday abroad and had premarital sex, so Dubai extradited the national and the foreign person who they had smexy time with?
 
Broken logic maybe, i tend to use theoretical comparrisons that are linked in a way but for the most part are just examples of how things could be taken out of hand.

My 2pence;
Just look at political correctness and how mad that all got, the world is fully of people with individual beliefs and morals so one man's "political correctness" maybe another mans "discrimination" be it positive or negative.

In the end i hold very little faith in the powers that be. every law, even the laws of nature have a counter balance - gravity against the zero gravity of space, matter against anti matter and push vs pull. So for every law there is, there's another force to counter it, getting anal about it like the americans are isn't going to solve the problem it will only make matters worse and before you know it you have 2 sides fighting each other on a much larger scale.

Albert Einstein "i do not know what weapons world war 3 will be fought with but i know that world war 4 will be fought with sticks"
 
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Mutsumi said:
Just boycott films/books/music from the US. The US are the enemy here, we shouldn't worry about punishing others.
So "Buy British" then?

But these days, with the Americans in charge of so many translation or dubbing, we'd most likely only not be giving them any money if we buy only British made things.
 
Mutsumi said:
Just boycott films/books/music from the US. The US are the enemy here, we shouldn't worry about punishing others.
Hmm. But it's the industry people are trying to get to take notice, and how many publishers of books, films and music are actually British when you look into who their ultimate owners are? Not a lot.

I suppose there's no harm in buying BBC / ITV DVDs though. 2 Entertain is British.
 
Joshawott said:
But these days, with the Americans in charge of so many translation or dubbing, we'd most likely only not be giving them any money if we buy only British made things.
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US was the enemy, in regards to SOPA and PIPA at least. ACTA is a European law which the UK has agreed to. I think it could actually include the US, but i haven't checked in a while. SOPA and PIPA have at least been shelved indefinitelym meaning, at least for the moment, they aren't the main threat. The main threat people are looking at, is the new one. I don't think this will work, because no matter how much you push someone to say no to this or that, they will still buy something along the line. It's just going to happen. I expect only a dedicated few can actually do what is asked on that thing. the first two where shelved for contacting local members of congress, this time round? It's just going to have to be on a larger scale.
 
I think I go most months of the year without buying any entertainment media. So I'll most likely be participating in black March, completely unintentionally of course. It will be like last November when I decided to let my beard grow out ridiculously, just because I felt like it, and everyone thought I was doing it for that charity/cancer awareness thing.
 
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