Manga's Double/Triple Disc Sets - Rate Them.

to be fair, it's dosent matter if manga's releases are in 3 or 2 parts they repsent great value and it saves shelf space for us poor anime fans. you should be asking this question about mvm.
 
Children, can't you just, y'know, contribute to the topic AND DO WHAT THE **** I SAID IN THE TITLE instead of revealing what you think of when you see Light and L together in DN?

I don't know why I bother; you're a bunch of ******* imbeciles.
 
Compare and contrast; to see if others ratings matched and if they rated the less volumes/discs series worse than the the ones with more volumes/discs.
 
One thing I will say based on my own list is that the stuff aimed more towards the ladies (Ouran and Jyu-Oh-Sei, and in western fandom due to the Clamp connection xxxHolic could fall into this category too) seem to be at one end of the scale whereas the meatier shounen/fighting series tend to get the slightly less tantalisingly cheap releases. It makes perfect sense since I can't imagine women are heavy anime buyers, especially in the UK. I prefer to use this as my logic for why the series I like are among the cheapest from Manga, anyway.

Ghost Hunt's price felt slightly anomalous to me for this reason. I can't see it having too much appeal to casual buyers or shounen fans and it's rather understated with no real action or fanservice. Coming out when it did its slightly higher price per set was a surprise to me.

R
 
Aion said:
Compare and contrast; to see if others ratings matched and if they rated the less volumes/discs series worse than the the ones with more volumes/discs.


Didn't want to quote but some jerk posted before me
:x



oh

well the only 3 I've got out of those is Death note,xxx holic, and negima

The best out of those was death note and the worse was xxx holic.
Death note was 2 disks each instead of 3 and even had one with 1
so the lower disks, so I would say the ones with less disks probably generally means the show is better simply based on that.

But that could just because death note is popular so they wanted to get as much money as the could by having more volumes.

What ever they think will be popular they do on less disks I think that or they just copy their american partners.

negima was 2 disks but 13 eps so they probably got cheap with that
as they will probably do with others though I think.


Any way I feel like I saved £20 pound when I don't buy them and spend it on ramen instead like my hero naruto 8).
 
Rui said:
One thing I will say based on my own list is that the stuff aimed more towards the ladies (Ouran and Jyu-Oh-Sei, and in western fandom due to the Clamp connection xxxHolic could fall into this category too) seem to be at one end of the scale whereas the meatier shounen/fighting series tend to get the slightly less tantalisingly cheap releases. It makes perfect sense since I can't imagine women are heavy anime buyers, especially in the UK. I prefer to use this as my logic for why the series I like are among the cheapest from Manga, anyway.

Ghost Hunt's price felt slightly anomalous to me for this reason. I can't see it having too much appeal to casual buyers or shounen fans and it's rather understated with no real action or fanservice. Coming out when it did its slightly higher price per set was a surprise to me.

R

Jyu, aimed at women? The cover art of the first volume suggested the male characers have pretty boy designs, but watching the anime I never thought it was designed to appel to the ladies.

Going on Ouran's Play and Amazon reviewers, as well as how well they appear to sell, I'd say there are plenty of females in the UK who like anime. They just hide because of how nerdy posters on forums like this are, and they don't go to convenations because they're full of fat males.

(On a side note, the first volume of Ouran is selling new for £9.99 on eBay. The seller had two copies remaining. Another seller is selling xxxholic 1 for £9.99.)

Also, FYI, xxxholic also has a RRP of £25.

Manga's strategy is to copy the release patterns of Funimation where possible and to half the releases of titles Funimation try to milk. Funimation do half/full series sets for silly/girly stuff mainly and try to milk the likes of Claymore. It must be working out quite well for them.

Ghost Hunt does stick out like a sore thumb besides Ouran, Negima and xxxholic, and you'd think Manga would try to keep the combined RRP lower than £50. I guess they couldn't get the license for as cheap as they wanted to...
 
Aion said:
Jyu, aimed at women? The cover art of the first volume suggested the male characers have pretty boy designs, but watching the anime I never thought it was designed to appel to the ladies.

It certainly appealed to me despite its shortcomings :)

The manga is shoujo and despite the sci-fi elements adheres very much to conventions such as entire pages spent on drawings of long, shimmering hair, slightly scrappy art focusing on emotions rather than fights and strange social interactions being the focus instead of milking the lush setting for its action potential. The infrequent fights are pretty weak - much simpler than even in the anime.

Aion said:
Also, FYI, xxxholic also has a RRP of £25.

Aha, I still had my huge pack of HMV vouchers at that time so clearly didn't even look at the price tags before buying. xxxHolic is another funny one to categorise. It's definitely a big hit with girls in the west. I'm interested mostly in the gender split purely because something being shoujo has traditionally been a kiss of death in terms of US/UK success (with the exception of anything related to Fruits Basket). Any sign things are improving in those quarters interests me.

I'd love to see solid sales figures from Manga. They've alluded to some in the past so hearing how this last year's batch has done for them would be interesting. Funimation seem masters of keeping all important details close to their chest so I won't expect any juicy information from those quarters.

R
 
So far I have the first 3 volumes of Death note, and the first of both Negima?! and Ouran.

Death note is of course death note, so there's not much need to go into depth about it, since I was probably the last person here to start watching it (having read the manga previously I had other anime fish to fry first). Nice set, 8 episodes on two disks is good value for money, and the series is good. And apparently no dubtitles which is a plus. So of course I rate it as good.

Overall Manga's new release sets have kind of 'spoiled' the UK industry for me now, as I now find myself turning to them first instead of other distributors. With the exception of one series I need to complete, I'm unlikely to turn to MVM again unless I find something cheap for sale. Likewise £13-20 for 3 episodes of Haruhi from Beez and their somewhat pricey releases. I had for a while treated Manga with some distrust (dubtitles etc) but now Manga/funimation is what I turn to when not importing.

Planning on picking up Darker then Black, Claymore and the rest of Ouran shortly after I return to Uni.
 
I'm a bit confused here (as usual). Rate the anime or the packaging / release? IMO the fewer the volumes the better, except when they ruin the quality completely.

I'm glad that despite of having a large screen TV, I don't notice much pixelation on my stuff. Few of them pixelate and in fairness they are older shows, such as gunsmith cats.

xxxholic - 9/10 for the show 10/10 for the release
Ouran - 7/10 for the show 10/10 for the release
Claymore - so far 9/10 for the show, 8/10 for the release

Others I've got, but haven't seem yet, so I'll jsut rate the package:
Darker than Black - 8/10 same as claymore
Death Note - 7/10 volume 4 annoyed me a bit as well
Ghost Hunt - 10/10 great value for money and quality-wise it looks decent.

Negima - 10/10 same as claymore and DtB

Same as everybody else, I like to save as much as I can, but ultimately, I don't mind paying the extra for nice stuff (ie. wolf's rain, patlabor, haruhi LE). I think it's a shame that we see so few tins and LE's, but then again, I believe that happened because only a handful would get them.
 
*resists temptation to question the taste of the AUKN posters*

/fails

How can a series aimed only at CLAMP fanatics be better than Death Note? How can a seemingly rushed trainwreck of a decent manga like Negima be rated 10/10 and Death Note 7/10......... HOW!? I'm all for different opinions but I just can't comprehend how a series like DN can be worthy of such low scores.

It's odd how there are so many DN haters on AUKN when it's so highly rated. Is the UK anti-DN, political correctness preventing the enjoyment gained from watching someone murder others? /paranoid


As for your question Chaos, I'm at a loss as to why people cannot grasp such a simple concept.

Rating the packaging is pointless when they all come in single disc sized plastic cases. Rating the extras is pointless when that's Funimation at work. The only thing to rate here is the quality of the titles.

Put two and two together without me getting you a calculator.
 
Aion said:
How can a series aimed only at CLAMP fanatics be better than Death Note? How can a seemingly rushed trainwreck of a decent manga like Negima be rated 10/10 and Death Note 7/10......... HOW!? I'm all for different opinions but I just can't comprehend how a series like DN can be worthy of such low scores.

It's odd how there are so many DN haters on AUKN when it's so highly rated. Is the UK anti-DN, political correctness preventing the enjoyment gained from watching someone murder others? /parnoid

I adored Death Note. However I'd read the manga first and seen the live action movies too; while the anime was enjoyable too it had lost some of its punch by the time I got to it. That's the big problem with suspenseful things and why I probably won't pick up the Monster anime. 7/10 isn't a hater score though.

The step down from Obata's artwork to the simpler anime designs also didn't help. Misa suffered the most in that respect.

I personally object to calling xxxHolic a CLAMP-lover only series since I strongly dislike CLAMP on the whole. Most of their series end up having at least one deeply irritating feature which winds me up even though they frequently receive high budget adaptations with large fandoms. xxxHolic was one series I almost overlooked specifically on the grounds that it was CLAMP until I succumbed to the funky art style and fell in love. The morality tale/ghost story type of show was another element I enjoyed (as with Requiem from the Darkness, Ayakashi, Tactics and many more).

Sadly I don't want to read/watch Tsubasa because that looks more like the irritating version of CLAMP so I'm missing out on half the story.

R
 
I like how Aion asks our opinions then once we actually post he openly believes he can comment and criticize what he likes and dislikes, I'll admit Death Note is better than Negima, but still...

Death Note sux.
 
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The anime art looks near enough identical to the manga, with a few rough patches. I felt right at home when I started reading the manga because of how 'camera angles' had been copied and how similar the art looked.

I can't understand how reading the manga or watching the mostly poor live-action flicks can impact on your enjoyment. The DN anime is superior to the manga, handling the second half better and being full of nice touches, plus it has a jaw dropping soundtrack. Sure, seeing the same story twice can be tiring, but that's no reason to lower the rating you gave the inferior (second half) manga.

I called xxxholic a CLAMP fanboy title because it showed nothing special in the first half, it being a straight-forward, episidoc series with spirits, an annoying sounding lead, awkward art and average animation... yet it's highly regarded. If it wasn't a CLMAP title, like Tsubasa, it'd have no respect.
 
Aion said:
I can't understand how reading the manga or watching the mostly poor live-action flicks can impact on your enjoyment. The DN anime is superior to the manga, hangling the second half better and being full of nice touches, plus it has a jaw dropping soundtrack. Sure, seeing the same story twice can be tiring, but that's no reason to lower the rating you gave the inferior (second half) manga.

Wuoted for truth.

The second half in the manga wasn't handled as well as it was in the anime, but was still enjoyable.

The OST for Death Note alone makes it worth an awesome score.
 
Aion said:
The anime art looks near enough identical to the manga, with a few rough patches. I felt right at home when I started reading the manga because of how 'camera angles' had been copied and how similar the art looked.

I can't understand how reading the manga or watching the mostly poor live-action flicks can impact on your enjoyment. The DN anime is superior to the manga, handling the second half better and being full of nice touches, plus it has a jaw dropping soundtrack. Sure, seeing the same story twice can be tiring, but that's no reason to lower the rating you gave the inferior (second half) manga.

Well, I quite liked the LA films (and most of the second half of the manga). So my taste is questionable and not very swayed by popular conclusions ;)

I'm very sensitive to character designs. Light and most of the others looked great but something about Misa didn't quite fit in her anime incarnation with the lower detail levels necessitated by the medium.

On to the other point, to try to convey how much the missing suspense impacted my enjoyment of the anime, I actually decided to build furniture while I was watching it because I knew what was going to happen and didn't feel so glued to the screen as I would have been the first time around. It was, on the whole, a very faithful and tight adaptation. The problem was that meant I knew what was happening so didn't feel the "wow" element necessary to keep me wanting more every episode, the way I feel watching Ouran where every scene has a new surprise.

This sort of discourages me from giving things largely arbitrary ratings since taste is so personal.

The DN live action films, despite weakness in pacing (the first half of the first film was not good) and some dodgy casting/CG, were not faithful to the manga. Although I wouldn't say they were better, the changes kept me interested so I could appreciate them as separate productions. It would have to be a very good series indeed to keep me equally thrilled across multiple faithful reimaginings; such series usually end up in rare 10/10 territory.

xxxHolic seems to completely polarise people. Sticking to my line that I found it great in spite of being CLAMP rather than because of it.

unellmay: It takes me far less time to delete your troll posts than it does for you to make them, so please don't do that again unless you want to add actual content as well.

R
 
Aion said:
*resists temptation to question the taste of the AUKN posters*

/fails
You do that all the time, so nothing new here....

Aion said:
How can a series aimed only at CLAMP fanatics be better than Death Note? How can a seemingly rushed trainwreck of a decent manga like Negima be rated 10/10 and Death Note 7/10......... HOW!? I'm all for different opinions but I just can't comprehend how a series like DN can be worthy of such low scores.
I can only think that you're talking to me or Rui here. If it was me, then I haven't seen DN yet, waiting for V4 an V5 to drop in price or I actually run all of shows in my backlog. Whichever comes first. The fact that the one volume DVD is V4 in DN doesn't annoy me. The fact it's price is not proportional do the other double discs does though.
Also, Negima was release (the packaging) was rated 10 /10 by me because I like the value of it and its presentation. Can't say a thing about the show, as I haven't watched it.
When I complete DN we can talk about the anime itself, but maybe it was me who misunderstood the purpose of this thread. Wasn't the first time, won't be the last. I thought I was supposed to rate not only the show itself, but how manga distributed it.

Aion said:
It's odd how there are so many DN haters on AUKN when it's so highly rated. Is the UK anti-DN, political correctness preventing the enjoyment gained from watching someone murder others? /paranoid
So many haters? I know blackwolf doesn't think it's as great as everyone else think it is and Lupus clearly doesn't like it, but can't remember of any DN hater around.

Aion said:
As for your question Chaos, I'm at a loss as to why people cannot grasp such a simple concept.

Rating the packaging is pointless when they all come in single disc sized plastic cases. Rating the extras is pointless when that's Funimation at work. The only thing to rate here is the quality of the titles.
Well, I see it different. The little extras are as important to me as the show itself.
Considering all DVD's that I get from Manga comes from Poland, I have all the reasons to believe they press from Funi's masters, but they could author anything out of the funimation DVD's if they wanted.

Aion said:
Put two and two together without me getting you a calculator.
You want me to think or to rate DVD's?
 
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