I don't mean to whine, but...
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Vashdaman
Za Warudo
Chaz said:
Exactly, this is my point, whether someone has midnight black skin or very pale skin or anything in between it's all beautiful, they don't need to change it. I think one big reason as to why it is the case that people desire a certain skin tone or long straight hair or whatever, is beacuse of what the media have brain washed some in to thinking is desirable. People have to ask themselves whether what they want really comes from themselves or whether its just what the media has told them they should want.
MaxonTreik
Chuunibyou
I've managed to walk into The Imperial in New Delhi unobstructed but the Indian guys behind me weren't allowed in so there is certainly a social class thing based on skin colour going on.
el oh el is this a topic with someone complaining about how pretty they are? And I thought I was vain...
Yes, looks are important. The better looking you are the better you will do in life, fact. Sure your going to need other tricks up your sleeve to get to where you want to be but if there is one thing that is going to make you stand out from the rest it's a pretty face. Sad but true.
Yes, looks are important. The better looking you are the better you will do in life, fact. Sure your going to need other tricks up your sleeve to get to where you want to be but if there is one thing that is going to make you stand out from the rest it's a pretty face. Sad but true.
Vashdaman
Za Warudo
No I'm sorry but that is not a fact, it all depends on the filter through which you view life. If you go through life worrying about people thinking your ugly, then yes you will make your life harder, if you don't and instead fully realize your inner beauty and find true peace of mind than your life will be fantastic no matter what you look like on the outside.
Also some of the most successful buisness people in the world aren't exactly you classic beauties, its not hard to make a list.
Again to repeat a chessy line, but beauty does really radiate from within.
Also some of the most successful buisness people in the world aren't exactly you classic beauties, its not hard to make a list.
Again to repeat a chessy line, but beauty does really radiate from within.
vashdaman said:
What a crock...
Look I know there is hideous billionaires out there but let's say you were in a position to hire someone. There were 2 people perfect for the job, both with the exact same skills. One looks like Angeline Jolie and other looks like Susan Boyle. You're going to choose the hot one. It's been proven time and again good looking people do better in life.
Vashdaman
Za Warudo
skikes said:
No, its not a crock. You can even put it another way, if you take care of yourself and have a very peaceful and happy mind set your Qi will naturally flow better, reach the surface of your skin and make your skin very strong, smooth and glow. Yet on the other hand I have seen other women friends of mine consider more athestically pleasing, yet because they might smoke or live a hectic life and have a negative mind set, when you see them up close they actually show signs of pre maturely ageing eg. crows feet, bad teeth, bad skin, dull eyes, dull hair and so on. A good personality and peaceful mind state absolutely shine to the outside.
And I'm sorry but your example of a job interview is a completely childish argument. As I said its just to do with the filter through which you view the world, losing out on one (eviently crap job) does not mean your life is officially worse, and anyway if you have the tenacisty, passion and unrelenting belief what ever you like you are bound to succeed.
If your theory was right all the richest or people in the world would look like Angelina Jole and Brad Pitt, when in reality I think its quite the opposite.
List of Random successful people:
Oprah- not a classic beauty
Bill gates-Not partularly beautiful
Donald Rump er I mean Trump- Hell no
Lord Alan Sugar-do I even need to say anything
David Camron- I suppose some people find him hot
Obama- At least he's a bit hotter than Cameron
Einstein- I like his style , but I don't think he was ever a teenage pin up
Lewis Hamilton- Wouldn't turn any heads, but he nabbed a Pussycat Doll
50 cent- Well at least he thinks he's hot, which is all that clearly matters
James Camron- He probably is a little more sexy than the other Cameron on this list but that up for debate.
Warren Buffett- Worth $42 billion dollars but he sure aint bringing sexy back
Lil Wayne- Small, not pretty and has a cross tattoed in between his eyes, yet he's still big pimpin.
Have I proven my point, your physical appearance only holds you back if you let it hold you back.
MaxonTreik
Chuunibyou
You don't choose people for jobs based purely on skill. Personality is a large part of it. Interviewers will ask you mundane questions or have certain things happen during an interview that might not seem relevant at the time. They need to know how you react. They want to know if you panic/get angry easily or aren't a team player. There'd be no point to an interview if you're going to just hire someone based on skills and looks.skikes said:
It completely depends on the situation! There are obviously jobs where being what is widely regarded as attractive will get you farther in life, such as performance, hosting and sales. In some cases though, being pretty can be a problem. I've been on hiring panels where people will turn someone down because they look too cute and this gives a bad impression. Or some people, used to getting their way due to their above average looks, will expect me to treat them especially well and flounder when I don't care.
Some bosses will deliberately favour ugly people to make themselves look better too, to directly counter the two identical applicants example ;p
On of my roles in my office is screening job applicants to see if they'll fit our company, and while I wouldn't say looks count against them, they certainly don't give anyone an advantage. The company I work for doesn't have any face-to-face sales business, and having a conventionally pretty face doesn't count for much when a person does the bulk of their work over the internet. I'd rather hire people with agile brains and strong personalities.
With some of these wealthy tycoons, I think that having a weathered, honest-looking face counts for more with their credibility sometimes than being drop dead gorgeous would, which might help them build up business relationships. That's still a matter of looks in its own way, of course, but there's more to first impressions than matching a conventional idea of physical perfection.
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Some bosses will deliberately favour ugly people to make themselves look better too, to directly counter the two identical applicants example ;p
On of my roles in my office is screening job applicants to see if they'll fit our company, and while I wouldn't say looks count against them, they certainly don't give anyone an advantage. The company I work for doesn't have any face-to-face sales business, and having a conventionally pretty face doesn't count for much when a person does the bulk of their work over the internet. I'd rather hire people with agile brains and strong personalities.
With some of these wealthy tycoons, I think that having a weathered, honest-looking face counts for more with their credibility sometimes than being drop dead gorgeous would, which might help them build up business relationships. That's still a matter of looks in its own way, of course, but there's more to first impressions than matching a conventional idea of physical perfection.
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Tachi
Mushi-shi
Rui said:
There's plenty of factors that go into it when choosing if they should or shouldn't be part of the company, mostly it registers on a subconscious level. But sometimes things register on other levels more apparent.
I understand thats rather confusing to understand. so basically:
Person 1 walks into the office for an interview, they are wearing a tracksuit, chewing gum, smell terrible (B.O) and their hair looks a mess, not brushed teeth, speaks to others with attitude and generally doesn't care about people in general.
Person 2 walks into the office, they are wearing a suit, not OTT styled hair but not boring (abit of gel or wax) They're wearing perfume/aftershave, pearly white teeth, polite and respectful to all they meet.
Now, Based on that alone you can look at it and think "right, person one shows no signs of being a team player from the way they compose themselves and the way they talk, they don't put any effort into appearance (so i doubt they'll really bother working to standards) - would this give the company a bad image?"
With person 2 you'd go "Okay, they are polite and seem to really want to get themselves a job today, they've put in alot of effort to make themselves as presentable as possible (so i can presume they'l put in alot of effort to their work) and they are dressed smartly, great image for the company"
The thing is, the first person could have natural beauty and much better qualifications, But overall its how you present yourself that helps you through life.
I personally believe that appearance is atleast 25% ifnot more that helps you get through an interview. Ofcorse the skills, qualifications, experience and personality are the rest of the fight, but its not always cut as easy as black and white.
I'm not saying an ugly person can't do well in life I'm just saying good looking people IN GENERAL do better. Which is true, I'm not making this stuff up.
Some sauce? Sure, I got some sauce:
http://scienceblog.com/cms/who-knew-goo ... 14974.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_a ... 685083.ece
Some sauce? Sure, I got some sauce:
http://scienceblog.com/cms/who-knew-goo ... 14974.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_a ... 685083.ece
-Tachi- said:
None of this in any way counters the fact that my entire point was that in my line of work I pick based on skills and personality, with aesthetics a nonexistent consideration.
Most of those things you described have nothing to do with beauty, just a really awful applicant versus a normal one, in which case, well, yeah, obvious choice.
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