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The UK government has published new measures that could see people who illegally download films and music cut off from the net.

The amendment to the Digital Britain report would see regulator Ofcom given greater powers to tackle pirates.

The technical measures are likely to include suspending the net accounts of "hardcore copyright pirates".

It is believed that Business Secretary Lord Mandelson has intervened personally to beef up the policy.

The Digital Britain report, published in June, gave Ofcom until 2012 to consider whether technical measures to catch pirates were necessary.

However, according to a statement from the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills released on Tuesday, that timeframe is now considered "too long to wait".

Stephen Timms, minister for Digital Britain, explained the change of heart.

"We've been listening carefully to responses to the consultation this far, and it's become clear there are widespread concerns that the plans as they stand could delay action, impacting unfairly upon rights holders," he said.

ISPs have repeatedly argued that it is not their job to police the web.

There is likely to be widespread anger over the tougher stance being adopted by the government.
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and again i stick with my stance of you ain't got the guts.......



or the prision space
 
They should be more concerned about tackling some of the violent crime and general public drunkenness in the UK rather than something that they will never be able to stop.
 
Sy said:
They should be more concerned about tackling some of the violent crime and general public drunkenness in the UK rather than something that they will never be able to stop.
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Ditto, but then again, there is no money to be made out of tackling violent crime or drunkenness =(

It's sadd that things are coming into this, and seriously, I'm wondering what we could do to try and stop it. I don't like the idea of big brother upon me like that.
 
Sy said:
They should be more concerned about tackling some of the violent crime and general public drunkenness in the UK rather than something that they will never be able to stop.
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Yeah but those guys fight back, they punch and kick and beat up prison officers, downloaders are pale and weak from the hours they spend in front of the pc so they aren't dangerous enough to break health and safety rules in the pison system :D
 
so may issues i have with this...where to begin?

one, how will they define Hardcore?

two, how will the know who's doing this, without giving ISP's the power to monitor what sites people visit? (which is surely a breach of the right to privacy?)

three, ISP's and the EU have already said they dont think this is the way to tackle the problem, Mandelson seems to think he knows better than both organistations now?

four, why order a report if you're gonna ignore or edit what it says?

five, whats to stop people finding loopholes and other ways of doing this anyway?

six, 7m people, that should sufficiently screw our economy into the ground

seven, people can easily hack into your network and do this, is it fair to cut off your internet supply for what someone else did?

eight, surely it would be better to stop websites from making stuff available in the first place?
 
SundayMorningCall said:
seven, people can easily hack into your network and do this, is it fair to cut off your internet supply for what someone else did?
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Also, it's not uncommom that internet connection is shared, such as in uni's, student houses, etc. So should a ban from the internet also be followed by eviction?
Such suggestions that they have the power, the will and the technology to monitor all internet traffic in hte UK is only risible, IMO.

SundayMorningCall said:
eight, surely it would be better to stop websites from making stuff available in the first place?
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Tough job to stop a website hosted in a different country. i.e. AUKN is hosted in an american ISP, because it was way cheaper than hosting in the UK.

You could get ISP's to block a website as China does. It's still possible to get around by using a proxy, but this should reduce piracy drastically.
 
It's illegal for them to watch you download by XDCC or direct download and torrents only show IPs so all they can do is bitch to your ISP. The worst that can happen is your ISP bans you and you switch ISP, but it won't because the more stuff that's available to you the more likely you are to want to continue paying for their internet. ISPs only send out letters to satisfy the authorities and it's just a scare tactic.

Until I hear of them actually clamping down on ISPs, I will continue to not care what they do.
 
skikes said:
i was like oh ****!

but then my bf pointed out i dont live in the uk anymore.... woooo!
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"You cleaver devil." :D Right then, time to go looking for flights to Ireland. (Showing his more liberal side to life.)
 
Sy said:
They should be more concerned about tackling some of the violent crime and general public drunkenness in the UK rather than something that they will never be able to stop.
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That and pedophiles, but i take it physically abusing children and posting it on the web is less heinous then pirating.
and i guess like what chaos said there's no money involved. Maybe they may introduce a fine when if you go to first on the net.
 
Chaz said:
"You cleaver devil." :D Right then, time to go looking for flights to Ireland. (Showing his more liberal side to life.)
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cool! how many should i expect then? ILLEGAL DOWNLOADS AND TEQUILA SHOTS FOR EVERYONE!!
 
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