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cardybean

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I don't know how everyone else feels, but I really hate any CG parts of anime. I don't exactly know why, but whenever I see a small scene of CG, or a certain character's body part or something, it just makes me cringe.

I don't mind discreet CG, stuff that totally blends in with the rest of the anime. I believe GITS:SAC had some CG, but that blended in with it.

But yes, does anyone agree with me on this?
 
I couldn't tell you, I've not posted in here for a long while.

I'm sure if you have a mod will lock/delete this =).
 
I think we already did this but here you go anyway.

It can work and sometimes it just doesn't. In the case of Stand ALone Complex with the Tachikoma's the cel shading is near perfection and works masterfully. However from the same series, in the episode where Togusa goes undercover at the medical centre with the kids, there is a really ugly out of place looking CG shot of the statue. It's a mixed bag and it's the same with a lot of series.

What I can't say I'm a fan of is anime completely rendered in 3D. The Appleseed movies mainly. They don't seem to be sure as to if they are trying to imitate CEl shading or be realistic and the blend of the two in my opinion is a failure. Sure the city shots look great but any close up on the characters and their movements look just plain bad or come off as looking awkward and unnatural.
 
Well the other thread was different in a way.

Yeah I do sometimes find it mildly annoying when they use CGI and it looks totally obvious. I suppose with the advances it technology it can only get better.
 
Personally, I'm no fan of pure CGI mixed with the standard animation.
It's ok if it blends in well as cardybean says, or if it's in context with the shot.
For example, in Haruhi there's a shot where Yuki resets data to recreate the classroom. That was fine as the scene involved data/information.
But most CG shots come off as obviously being made on a computer, and they can be jarring. I use MAR as an example, as the CGI was just awful.

I hate to admit it, but the Americans do CGI better than the Japanese.
Either that or the Japanese don't mind dodgy computer graphics.
 
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I think, much like everything else in film, CG has a time and a place.

Tachikoma and their ilk just work so well in SACwith the pseudo 3d-ness. It gives a very different quality to them and the way they move. I mean, a machine wouldn't walk the same way a human does, so that slight "Wrongness" worked.

The CG in Fooly Cooly was fine because it was for very specific shots in a show that changed styles every 3 seconds anyway.

Poor CG will always create problems (Initial D 1st stage, I'm looking at you here, that CG was just TERRIBLE), but like I said: there's a time and a place.

I totally dig Appleseed, by the way. The plot is a bit incomprehensible at points but the action and animation are top notch from where I sit.
 
I can't think of a time where i've noticed CG standing out badly in a series of films. Maybe thats partially because i havnt had the time to sample some of the less favourable animes. But to be fair i didnt even know they used CG for the tachikoma's in GitS. Shows how well its done, if i couldnt notice it.
 
All the best CGI in conventional animation is the stuff you're barely aware of. Jarring CGI effects ruin the suspense of disbelief and make everything feel disjointed. As a tool it has potential, but it's too often overused for lazy reasons. I'm not much of a fan really :(
 
Wildcard said:
All the best CGI in conventional animation is the stuff you're barely aware of. Jarring CGI effects ruin the suspense of disbelief and make everything feel disjointed. As a tool it has potential, but it's too often overused for lazy reasons.
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Amen.
Personally don't mind if it's all CGI (eg Appleseed), if it seems like none (GitS), or it is used properly to highlight the weirdness (eg Haruhi) . As long as it doesn't shift between it in the two at the same time (eg BLASSREITER, Reideen)
 
One of my all time favourite anime Movies - Detective Conan: Crossroad in an Ancient Capital (movie 7) - has a very dodgy CGI moment and it really ruins it... especially since, the rest of it is so beautifully drawn and captures the wonder of Kyoto.
 
hopeful_monster said:
Wildcard said:
All the best CGI in conventional animation is the stuff you're barely aware of. Jarring CGI effects ruin the suspense of disbelief and make everything feel disjointed. As a tool it has potential, but it's too often overused for lazy reasons.
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Amen.
Personally don't mind if it's all CGI (eg Appleseed), if it seems like none (GitS), or it is used properly to highlight the weirdness (eg Haruhi) . As long as it doesn't shift between it in the two at the same time (eg BLASSREITER, Reideen)
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I think that CGI is a green field. animators still have a lot to learn from it. WRT to hating o loving it, well, it doesn't really matters, because it's here to stay. If they use it to look like CGI or t look hand drawn, well, this is a completely different story.
 
Personally, as long as it isn't really bad i don't mind the inclusion of CG in anime.In productions such as gunbuster 2 and rebuild of evangelion CG really adds to the effect of the animation and helps parts to stand out,whilst as aforementioned blends in with the style of the anime.
 
Well all aspects of the CG argument seem to have been approached already if not repeated in some cases.
I think some bad CG affects are allowed in some cases. CG dates quite far back (Akira) where it's blaintently out of place but you don't really care. Kind of gives off that B Movie feel in some cases. Like Heat Guy J... bad CGI but it imo is what you'd expect from the series. Obviously there will be people who disagree but I've never really minded the odd bit of dodgy CGI. At the evry least it doesn't offend the eyes, just out of place sometimes.
Like, has already been mentioned, it can only get better. But, in my case I hope it doesn't coz I like to know the difference between drawn and CG. I appreciate it more that way.
 
Voddas said:
Well all aspects of the CG argument seem to have been approached already if not repeated in some cases.
I think some bad CG affects are allowed in some cases. CG dates quite far back (Akira)
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Akira had CGI in it? I thought the whole thing was done with traditional animation techniques. Where abouts do they use it?
 
Wildcard said:
Voddas said:
Well all aspects of the CG argument seem to have been approached already if not repeated in some cases.
I think some bad CG affects are allowed in some cases. CG dates quite far back (Akira)
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Akira had CGI in it? I thought the whole thing was done with traditional animation techniques. Where abouts do they use it?
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In the Army/scientist mini mobile lab. The wavey graph thing showing akira's power. Tried to find a picture but gave up. Didn't say it was alot of CGI.
 
Voddas said:
Wildcard said:
Voddas said:
Well all aspects of the CG argument seem to have been approached already if not repeated in some cases.
I think some bad CG affects are allowed in some cases. CG dates quite far back (Akira)
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Akira had CGI in it? I thought the whole thing was done with traditional animation techniques. Where abouts do they use it?
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In the Army/scientist mini mobile lab. The wavey graph thing showing akira's power. Tried to find a picture but gave up. Didn't say it was alot of CGI.
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is it CGI? neever noticed... will have to re-watch Akira again to check this out... Oh, poor me ;D
 
Voddas said:
In the Army/scientist mini mobile lab. The wavey graph thing showing akira's power. Tried to find a picture but gave up. Didn't say it was alot of CGI.
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Oh yeah. It's a weirder effect so I never thought about it - a good use of CGI I'd say (since I didn't even consider it).
 
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