The UK Anime scene in 2010 - Your Opinions

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With the majority (if not all) of the UK anime companies having confirmed or finalising their Q4 line-up, I thought it would be an interesting time to gauge opinion of what we would like to see in 2010. It's really the perfect time for Anime fans to voice their opinions and aid in shaping the Anime scene in 2010 (Well, at least attempting to, providing people in industry are reading :p).

From what you would like to see change (or stay the same) with the major names of UK Anime, be it release strategies, pricing, etc or to the Anime you want to see licensed. Do you want to see MVM finally ditch the singles? Or Beez lower prices, and finally get around to bringing Lucky Star to the UK? Perhaps you would like to see changes to Digital Distribution?

This shouldn't be considered a topic overly concerned with logistics, 'MVM aren't going to drop singles because yada yada', this is about what you want to see, regardless of likelihood. A wishlist if you will.

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So I'll start:

Manga Entertainment UK: Manga are making it easy to get behind them and support them with their release strategies and they seem to be bringing some quality titles to the UK and I hope they continue with this. Manga seem very much on the right track to me. I do, however, wish to see less 'stirring of the pot'. It really annoys me to see a representative of the company to be so negative about core users values (such as subtitled Anime). I'm sure people are very much aware an English language track will help to drive sales, but at the same time, there is little need to weigh this against the core fans who value subtitles. Comparisons are of little value, and really only serve to segment the audience. The recent comparisons of an established franchise like Appleseed and something like Vexille in the most recent Neo were pretty redundant in my opinion, and there was little need to make them. You should value your core audience regardless of their requirements, as they're the ones most likely to stick around.

Licenses I'd like to see: One Piece, Dragon Ball Kai, Casshern Sins, Bamboo Blade, Baccano and Eden of the East.

MVM: MVM need to ditch singles! It's gotten to the stage where even series' I have been dying to see licensed, finally are, when it comes to picking up the volumes I can't be bothered! Which is bad. Sure I should be more proactive about this, but MVM should also be more proactive in persuading people to pick up their releases. Personally I'd like to see them at least double up on volumes (perhaps counter balance this by raising RRP to £19.99). I also want to see MVM do a little more research into what they're licensing. They release Berserk just before the remastered set is announced in the US, and they're releasing X very soon, yet in the US they're about to receive the X remixes (again). I understand there are constraints to MVM and what they can do, but you don't want fans to purchase and feel cheated, and I did after buying Berserk.

Licenses I'd like to see: Revolutionary Girl Utena! Do it now! NOW!

Beez: I think the consensus is, that we'd all love to see cheaper Beez releases. While you can get some nice deals online, I still find Beez to be pretty pricey (Sorry Andrew). I also believe they've effectively priced themselves out of retail, which perhaps is not as huge a force in Anime sales today; I still believe a presence is important. I'd also love to see a budget style label, similar to Anime Legends here. I think it would do wonders, perhaps you won't make as much profit, but by getting people to bite, you're raising awareness with the promotional materials you have on the discs, of your other releases, and building a relationship with the consumer.

Licenses I'd like to see: Lucky Star, Kannagi, Hayate, Silent Mobius.

Revelation: Shape up or ship out. If you want to release Anime, do it. You've released some well-produced FMA sets, but you've also left many an anime fan with incomplete collections. I honestly wouldn't even like to see you pick up any more licenses at the moment. I also hope you make up your mind what to do with the Xxxholic and Tsubasa movies.

Anime on TV: It amazes me that we still have next to nothing. Channel 4 for example, is required by law to provide varied and niche entertainment and that which other channels do not offer the viewer, regardless of whether it will make a profit and be successful. Yet no one in the industry appears to be pushing channel 4 or MPs? There was an article in a newspaper that caused some interest, but it all seems to have fizzled out from there. Sony has this channel just playing away, with plenty of English language content... I want to see Animax FINALLY make an appearance in the UK.

Digital Distribution: Digital Distribution offers such interesting avenues when it comes to revenue. What's stopping companies picking up older, or more niche titles that will perhaps not sell well physically, and releasing them online? While licenses may perhaps be exactly the same (although I'm sure negotiations could be made), you're erasing the costs to produce and distribute the physical copy. Surely someone has to try it, at the very least. I'd love to see older stuff like Cyber City OEDO 808, Geno Cyber (which didn't actually finish releasing in the UK yeah?), Doomed Megalopolis, etc, but also series that perhaps would never ordinarily get licensed in the UK, like Genshiken.

So, I'd be interested in what other people here would like to see. Don't feel the need to write so much, or set it out the same way, but please, if you want to see something different, or changed, or list some licenses you'd like to see, let us know, and more importantly, let them know ;).
 
Manga Entertainment To me Manga are the best distributer around in the UK. Why? Because they are introducing some great series at great prices! They have stopped releasing anime in single volumes which is always a plus in my eyes. A boxset sits better on my shelf. I would love to see Manga license One Piece for release here, they are the only ones who release it but even then its a small chance.

MVM MVM, I think, have released some great titles. But their methods of releasing anime is a big turn off for me. Releasing 4 or 5 episodes at a time for £19.99 isn't great marketing. I mean yes they have to make money from it but they're getting a bit silly. They should adopt Manga's way of pricing. Singles volumes annoy me so I always wait for a boxset to be released before purchasing a title.

Beez For the last two years I didn't even know about this company. I can't really say much apart from their hefty prices. They haven't really licensed anything that takes my fancy except for PlanetES. They do however have great artwork for the boxes and I love the logo. Even though their titles don't interest me much they do release some more of the more well known anime. I do look forward to Sword Of The Stranger though.

Revelation Films I think they should just give it up. Slow release times and in many cases they have completely stopped a series and no plans to finish. Over priced and rubbish titles, only one worth mentioning is their FMA boxsets which are at a reasonable price.

Anime On TV This doesn't bother me too much seeing as I'm not one for watching TV much. But it would be nice to see more anime on rather than just having the odd Studio Ghibli on Film4 or on the BBC at Christmas.

Digital Distribution I'm not so sure on this. I love having a DVD boxset on my shelf to prove that I have purchased it and also it looks better. I personally think that for the popular series a release on DVD can be done. But as for older series or lesser well known a digital download could be sorted from the studio save buying licenses and what not.

Well these are my opinions, don't argue with them as we are all entitled to different ones.
 
What would I like to see happen in the anime scene in 2010? Nicer packaging - Singles close to or on par with Japanese releases or not at all. The total annihilation of the BBFC. Classic anime which has never had an English release subbed and released (forget dubs for these, people who prefer dubs don't watch old series' anyway). I don't give a toss about anime on TV or streaming content, as I hardly ever watch either, but it has to be said the latter is probably a good idea. Oh and Blu-ray. Tons of f*ckin' Blu-ray.

UK Licences I'd like to see (but will eat many a hat if they do ever appear):
Dirty Pair TV.
Patlabor TV & OVAs.
Gunbuster (come on! why do we still not have this?)
Any UC Gundam (on Blu-ray if possible, since it seems to be going that way in Japan)
Lupin III TV (again, BD if possible)
Bubblegum Crisis BD
Mazinger Z
Urusei Yatsura
Hidamari Sketch
Renkin San-kyu Magical Pokan
Slayers films released in anamorphic widescreen.

Incidentally, if any of these titles come out on BD in the US and are region A locked, I will join Islamic Jihad in retaliation.
 
I've come to be somewhat indifferent about the state of UK DVD releases, unless in cases where I can be enticed not to import. Titles I interest myself in often fail to be popular enough to warrant a release over here.
Still, I'd like to see a move towards collection and half-season releases reaching shelves simultaneously with (or instead of) singles, unless this is already being embraced.

Beez. More Patlabor please! CPM are no longer, but I still have hope in outlandish possibilities such as this.

Anime On TV. I'm in favour of scouting for new fans willing to pay more than they would for mainstream media. If UK companies are not in a position to consider an option as big as television though, I'd rather such risks weren't taken.

Digital Distribution. This is a legal quagmire. If Japanese rights holders can alter the way they sell streaming licences, then countries with smaller DVD selections such as the UK will benefit. I'd assume that either a reasonable subscription method or a global advertisement streaming system would need to be implemented to this end.
The current system, which looks like it'll remain in place for the immediate future, merely reproduces the problems of physical media: fans being denied a selection based upon where they happen to live.

ayase said:
The total annihilation of the BBFC.
On that note, American licensing companies self-rate their titles all the time, and I've yet to hear of lawsuits from irate parents over there...
 
General answer would be MORE BLU-RAYs ideally released at the same time as the dvd release.

In particular I would like to see Blu-ray releases for the following series,

Gunbuster & Gunbuster II
Escaflowne
Kimagure Orange Road
His and Her Circumstances
Dominion Tank Police
Aria
Azumanga Daioh
 
I completely forgot about Blu-ray in the OP! I'd love to see a lot more Blu-ray releases! Not just older titles brought to Blu-ray but new releases simultaneously released alongside DVD. Anime is really lacking on Blu-ray at the moment (imo), and that really needs to be addressed.
 
@mangaman - Blu-ray for Azu would be largely pointless as it was digitally animated at a lower resolution. I think the Gunbuster movies BD box is the closest we'll get there, which is pretty good - I'm surprised we even got that, what with the UK still not having the original series.

DTP gets my approval, but I don't think they even have that on BD in Japan yet...
 
Y'know, at times, it sucks to be an anime fan in the UK.

Manga: What Next?


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Manga Entertainment UK: They're the best of the best in the UK. Cheaper than Funimation, even.

I'd like to see Manga start using slipcovers for their releases again. A normal sized DVD case doesn't look much like a complete collection. However, if the case had a 'box' to slide into...

Another 'wish' is that Manga don't focus only on shounen rubbish. D. Gray-man and Soul Eater aren't very good. I want to see the likes of Spice and Wolf get a UK release and not cost £30+, and I don't want to see Manga only release silly, mindless violence or fan service heavy shows. More of Ghost Hunt, less of Negima!?, please.

MVM: In an ideal world, MVM would license Spice and Wolf straight away, releasing it in a lovely box set, which would sell for between £17.99-£22.99 after RRP cuts. This isn't an ideal world.

MVM, a company I once thought of as Geneon Lite because of their quality titles, are quickly going down the same path as Geneon by releasing rubbish and releasing single disc volumes. Though I did buy their recent Black Lagoon box sets, they will eventually lose out because Manga are changing the pricing expectations of UK anime fans with every release. They don't sell at RRP prices like Beez do to 'true' otakus, being more of a 'middle' between the two extremes of Manga and Beez, and eventually they'll be no more.

Beez: Misprices aside, I don't care for Beez. Their prices are too high for me, and only Sword of the Stranger is of interest to me right now. I own Code Geass already and I paid £60 for the now worthless original Cowboy Bebop box sets.

They continue to survive because of dedicated collectors who pay whatever it takes for anime they want - that's how they survive. I don't see it as good for anime in the UK for them to be asking so much for their three-part TTGL releases (over double after RRP cuts) when Manga ask so little. I'm sure lthe icensing fee played a part but, nonetheless, Beez always charge a lot.

Revelation: Whoever said Revelation's only decent title is FMA has no idea what he's talking about (School Rumble, Hell Girl, Suzuka...), but I don't care about them or their releases. They delay forever, still release singles, drop series halfway through and are as good as finished. They also expect people to pay a ton for a Musishi brick set when they can import for far less.

Anime on TV: Outside of MotD, I don't watch TV. There's your answer.

Digital Distribution: That's what the internet and fansubs are for: HD anime, free of charge.
 
i want to see Rurouni Kenshin finally getting a release, along with the uncut versions of the OVAs

Lucky Star is a definite want for me personally, along with Higurashi
and i agree with Aion about Spice and Wolf as well :wink:

i don't care about Anime on TV, they'll just do Naruo and 4Kids Dubs and all that crap instead of proper stuff like Elfen Lied or Ah! My Goddess!

although if Bleach and Funimation's dub of One Piece gets thrown in the mix i wouldn't mind
 
Manga Entertainment UK: I'm happy with Manga. They just need to license more shows I'm interested in and talk to the fanbase more (so I don't buy the Funi versions first). I'm not that interested in anything they have coming up at the moment but I know there will be more.

MVM: I don't really buy anything from MVM because they tend to release things long after I've got the R1s. As their catalogue is all over the place it's hard to anticipate what they might pick up, unlike Beez and Manga, so I can't help buying imports first! Grabbing some material not already out for 1/4 of the price in R1 would be a good move, that or rescuing more abandoned R1 series which have become hard to find. Dropping the singles model when they can would also get some attention.

Beez: I like Beez. I like a lot of their shows, and Bandai is doing such a shoddy job in R1 that Beez has become a viable alternative. The cost doesn't bother me since I appreciate the collectable nature of their releases and I appreciate that they keep experimenting with different release models (e.g. Wolfs Rain vs Diebuster vs Geass) to try to find out what works best in terms of being worthwhile for them whilst pleasing fans. They have been plagued with some technical issues but of all the companies they're the most friendly towards their buyers thanks to Andrew so I always feel as though I can get in touch and resolve anything that's gone wrong; more than I can say for a lot of companies these days! I'd just like to see them grab some more stuff (Lucky Star, more Haruhi, more Gundam, Geass R2 etc), switch to a less flakey production company (missing subtitles is not good) and stick around. If they can find a perfect release style which suits them financially while also increasing their market penetration that would be good.

Revelation: I don't care what they do, because they've lost all of my goodwill after a flashy start and I'm sure a lot of people feel the same about them. Them dropping so many series partway has soured the singles model in the UK more than anything anyone else has done. I would only buy one-shot material from this company even if they returned to active distribution of new shows because I have no faith in them any more.

Also not interested in TV/streaming (I have no TV, and streaming only matters when I run out of DVDs), and cannot play UK blu-ray so my interest in that is limited to unlocked worldwide simultaneous releases - which I'd like to see more of!

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All I want is for one of the companies to take a leaf out of Funimations book and put the 1st couple of eps of a series on there website or youtube (for free) so I can watch it, and decide whether I should buy it.

Although you can't always judge it on 2 eps it better than judging it on a trailer.

It seems that Funi have now blocked anyone outside the US watching there stuff, which is naff. Can't remember when I watched something last on there but it wasn't that long ago, GUTTED!!! :(
 
ayase said:
The total annihilation of the BBFC.
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Oh and Blu-ray. Tons of f*ckin' Blu-ray.
ditto

ayase said:
UK Licences I'd like to see (but will eat many a hat if they do ever appear):
Gunbuster (come on! why do we still not have this?)[/i]
I've bought this from Andrew in bluray, is there something wrong? did they sold out and are not reprinting?


TBH, the only thing I really wanted is Record of Loddoss wars, which is proving to be difficult to get.

Faster releases or at least in sync with US would be great as well.

If it's available in the UK, I'll get the UK version, if it's not, I'll import from somewhere it's available and I understand the langauge.

Price is not really important. Beez prices are usually fine by me, more than that i'm not sure I'd pay up for. I reserve an amount of my salary for entertainment in general and I hardly ever reach it. This ends up in a fund / saving account / under my mattress and I use this money if I travel or go to something like a con or an expo.
 
Outside of One Piece being brought over to the UK by Manga Entertainment and Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Blu-ray releases, the majority of what I'd ask for would probably be a tad too obscure.
 
Ryo Chan said:
i can no longer see Lucky Star getting a UK release seeing how adokawa Pictures USA licensing has shut down :(

It is certainly an interesting scenario, and I'd love to hear Andrew's take on the matter. Perhaps it is too early to be so negative. Kadokawa will most likely keep the US rights with their Japanese arm (and keep all standing sub-licenses etc) or transfer full US rights to Bandai (the more unlikely option perhaps). I can't see them keeping the rights with an arm no longer in operation, it would be a waste.

I always wondered if the hold up with Lucky Star in the UK was due to Kadokawa US, and if they perhaps wanted a larger slice of the proceeds.

Rui said:
Bandai is doing such a shoddy job in R1 that Beez has become a viable alternative.

Could not agree with this more. Bandai have burned a lot of importers with the issues that plague their releases. While changing replicators seems to be giving more positive results, there are still issues creeping up (perhaps not as widespread as before), which leads me to believe there are issues on their side. I wonder if the Beez Gurren Lagann issue is perhaps also related to them. Certainly the original sub only release of Part Two was plagued with issues due to replication and the copy protection on the disc.

I'm paying a lot more attention to Beez than I was, and they seem to be being a little more aggressive, and from the comments in the Beez topic from Andrew, it seems like they're very much aware they need to lower prices and Andrew seems to be conveying that message (the Geass boxsets were reduced in RRP anyway).
 
chaos said:
ayase said:
UK Licences I'd like to see (but will eat many a hat if they do ever appear):
Gunbuster (come on! why do we still not have this?)[/i]
I've bought this from Andrew in bluray, is there something wrong? did they sold out and are not reprinting?.
I mean the original Gunbuster OVA, we still don't have that. We have Gunbuster 2 (surprisingly. I imported the expensive R1 singles because I thought we weren't likely to get it here, especially not before the original) and the Gunbuster / Diebuster movies box which is great, but the R1 Gunbuster set is now quite expensive to import for new fans. It's certainly above the £18 import limit.
 
ayase said:
@mangaman - Blu-ray for Azu would be largely pointless as it was digitally animated at a lower resolution. I think the Gunbuster movies BD box is the closest we'll get there, which is pretty good - I'm surprised we even got that, what with the UK still not having the original series.

DTP gets my approval, but I don't think they even have that on BD in Japan yet...

I already own the Gunbuster movies on dvd. While they are good they are not even close to to the original series (like too many movies based on existing series stuff gets cut and makes a mess of the film)

I would like to upgrade my dvds of the series but I will not upgrade the movies.
 
Uppa said:
Outside of One Piece being brought over to the UK by Manga Entertainment and Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Blu-ray releases, the majority of what I'd ask for would probably be a tad too obscure.
don't be shy, obscure is good (sometimes ;) )

ayase said:
chaos said:
ayase said:
UK Licences I'd like to see (but will eat many a hat if they do ever appear):
Gunbuster (come on! why do we still not have this?)[/i]
I've bought this from Andrew in bluray, is there something wrong? did they sold out and are not reprinting?.
I mean the original Gunbuster OVA, we still don't have that. We have Gunbuster 2 (surprisingly. I imported the expensive R1 singles because I thought we weren't likely to get it here, especially not before the original) and the Gunbuster / Diebuster movies box which is great, but the R1 Gunbuster set is now quite expensive to import for new fans. It's certainly above the £18 import limit.

Oh, there are OVAs as well... I didn't know about them. I thought the movie was all there was to it.
 
mangaman74 said:
ayase said:
@mangaman - Blu-ray for Azu would be largely pointless as it was digitally animated at a lower resolution. I think the Gunbuster movies BD box is the closest we'll get there, which is pretty good - I'm surprised we even got that, what with the UK still not having the original series.

DTP gets my approval, but I don't think they even have that on BD in Japan yet...
I already own the Gunbuster movies on dvd. While they are good they are not even close to to the original series (like too many movies based on existing series stuff gets cut and makes a mess of the film)

I would like to upgrade my dvds of the series but I will not upgrade the movies.
As I say in my post above, I'd certainly like to see the original Gunbuster series released on DVD here. But again, I think we have zero chance of getting anything on Blu-ray which Japan doesn't have yet. The movies set was a simultaneous worldwide release though, so if the full series' do come out on BD there's a chance we might get it too - but of course it might not happen even in Japan.

@chaos - As mangaman says, the movies are recut from the OVAs. They're still good (and wanting to see HD Gunbuster made them a definate purchace for me) but they do miss a lot out.
 
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