Review of Naruto - Lost Story Mission: Protect the Waterfall

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<b>Review of Naruto - Lost Story Mission: Protect the Waterfall by Ryan</b>

Naruto: The Lost Story is an interesting case of anime coming out in the UK before it does anywhere else in America. Unfortunately, it isn't an epic or even a great movie, let alone much to hold over anyone else, simply because, in itself, it's just too short, and what's exclusive to the UK isn't the OVA, but an extra on the disc.

The Lost Story is like another episode in the series, generally looking only slightly better, and offering a story that, from end-to-end, lasts less than forty minutes. With similarly humble beginnings, Sakura narrates the premise of the story; Kakashi and Team 7 are on a mission to accompany and protect Shibuki, the new leader of the Village Hidden in the Waterfall, and son of the previous leader, a great and respected man. But just like Inari from the Land of the Waves, Shibuki is a coward, and doesn't respect his father for dying in the defence of his village.

Fortunately the local children are fond of him, and think he's as much a hero as any, especially since he hasn't been called on to fight or prove it yet. The mission soon looks over, and Kakashi is called back to the Village Hidden in the Leaves for an emergency meeting of Jounin, with Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura having nothing better to do, having arrived unharmed, than to be put to work picking up litter in the waterfall.

Things soon take a change for the worse, of course, as the Village Hidden in the Waterfall comes under attack by a group of rogue ninja with no immediately apparent motive. Shibuki and the children had thus far been loitering outside the hidden entrance to the village, unwilling to reveal its location to the members of Team 7 - but convinced by an ailing villager that they are under attack, and soon besieged themselves, the weak and cowardly Shibuki can only call on Team 7's help.

What elapses is then a confrontation with the bandits, brandishing all the cunning and jutsu of the battles the series is famous for, but having so little in the way of plot that saying any more would literally deprive The Lost Story of anything to tell. As far as it goes, the film holds its own in terms of general quality, when compared to the series, but fails to deliver either the emotional weight of the Zabuza arc, or the volume of action found in the Chuunin exam episodes. It compares more favourably with the recent Ninja Clash in the Land of Snow movie, but is less original, and doesn't take the series as far into new territory.

There is some relief, however, in the fact that the disc is also accompanied by a second OVA, 'Find the Red Four-Leaved Clover', a quirkier fifteen minute love story centred on Konohamaru's affection for a young girl about to leave the village. Rather than just let her go, Konohamaru decides to wake Naruto and have him help in acquiring the fabled red four-leaved clover, over which he can make a wish, and stop her from leaving. But it would seem that the clover is hidden in Akagahara, a training ground for Jounin, which resembles the Forest of Death in the preliminary to the Chuunin exam.

I actually found myself more contented with this than the main feature at the time, whether that's because I had less expectations, or enjoyed how culturally Japanese it was by comparison with the other films I don't know. But it isn't without its own slew of problems. I can only imagine it won't be to everyone's taste, and the fact remains that it doesn't make up for The Lost Story's brevity (itself being just fifteen and a half minutes long). Found in the extras menu alongside a few trailers, some fans might miss it altogether (though it helps that the DVD case clearly advertises its presence), and its Japanese language, English subtitled nature, which cannot be altered, means that some younger viewers may be confused by changes in the names of their favourite characters trademark techniques.

Overall I enjoyed the films, but I understand that I didn't have to pay for them. I'm not sure how much it will cost to pick up The Lost Story, but with both running together at less than an hour, including the credits, you really have to ask if you think it is worth what is being asked for. The Lost Story is at best a good episode, and at worst, a bad episode that derives its story from others in the series and the Dragonball movies (it really is quite blatant). So I can only console myself with the thought that the director probably approached it and the extra side story with the hopes of creating two short but comfortable little stories as appendage to the series, and achieved just that.

<strong>In Summary</strong>

The Lost Story is best left to compulsive fans and completionists in most instances, because in itself, even accompanied by Find the Red Four-Leaved Clover, it is never better or worse than the series at its most average, and is probably too short to justify a purchase for most. A seven if you think its worth the asking price, but I'll air on the side of caution and give it a six.<br>
<b>Final score: 6 out of 10</b>
 
It makes me sick, honestly. I saw this a long time ago and instantly forgot about it. Calling it "The Lost Story" merely adds merit to something that is obviously going to be the case of buyer's remorse for many months to come.

"The Missing Tape" subtext geniunely makes me want to puke. Suppose Naruto is capable of fooling the masses of mainstream Japanese animation fans. Especially the younger audience, who will buy into this garbage almost instantly. It's revered so much upon the cover, what self-respecting fan of a series couldn't heed the call of such mystery?

Then again, I wouldn't put such lowbrow tactics past Manga Entertainment. They've been squaring out a living as one of the sole distributors of "Any crappy OVA that has tits and blood in it!" since the early nineties.

Releasing something like this is, in essence, no different than releasing pilot material and treating it as something special. This is often not the case, as I'm sure anyone would agree.

Alas, the curse of Television Series Movies. It's been going on since the beginning. "X" amount of Good Guys versus "X" (equal) amount of Bad Guys. Goodies get their ass kicked in the beginning and have to go on some pointless quest of some kind, Baddies seem amazingly invincible and often have similarities to enemies and situations within the original source material somewhere. By the end, Goodies kick ass of Baddies, usually in one-on-one fights. Cue epic "Final Battle" with "Leader" Protagonist and the "Leader" of the Baddies. All enemies disintegrate into dust/die/vanish never to be heard from again because the storyline isn't, and will never be, canon to the original source material.

That's why Animated Movies based on Television Series are generally considered to be fantastic money making schemes.

Hell. The first Naruto motion-picture Clash in the Land of the Snow was a purile piece of crap, too. But try telling that to the hardcore fans. They simply won't buy it. Therefore, Manga Entertainment can sleep relatively easy for another three years or so.
 
F.F. said:
Then again, I wouldn't put such lowbrow tactics past Manga Entertainment. They've been squaring out a living as one of the sole distributors of "Any crappy OVA that has tits and blood in it!" since the early nineties.
I clearly must have been watched the wrong disc of Naruto...

Yes it's a forgettable cash-in, but so what? If companies know they can make money from it, why shouldn't they go in for the kill?
 
Just Passing Through said:
With six months between boxset releases, they need something to keep the dream alive.
Why such a long gap between release? Is it so Viz can catch up in the States?
 
Sy said:
Just Passing Through said:
With six months between boxset releases, they need something to keep the dream alive.
Why such a long gap between release? Is it so Viz can catch up in the States?
America's actually ahead of us now, I think they're around the 6th box at the moment. I heard a way back that Manga's original licence was just for the first 52 episodes, so maybe it took a bit longer to negotiate more?

If Manga's current release dates are to be believed, we'll have boxes 5-8 all out this year so hopefully we'll be seeing quite a lot of releases in the coming months. A lot of Viz titles are coming through Manga these days so hopefully they'll do a good job overall.
 
I think the contract stipulated that the Viz releases had to come out before the UK ones, and then the Viz uncut discs had to come out after the edited TV versions.

Fortunately, Viz are speeding up their boxsets now to once every 12 weeks, and so Manga can follow suit.
 
Ushio said:
F.F. said:
Then again, I wouldn't put such lowbrow tactics past Manga Entertainment. They've been squaring out a living as one of the sole distributors of "Any crappy OVA that has tits and blood in it!" since the early nineties.
I clearly must have been watched the wrong disc of Naruto...

Yes it's a forgettable cash-in, but so what? If companies know they can make money from it, why shouldn't they go in for the kill?

There's tits and blood in Naruto, so I'm told.

( Sasuke and Tsunade come to mind. )

You speak as though you stand to make anything from these faceless companies and their "f*ck with the fans" attitude. You're in the same boat as the rest of us, I'd wager. Why such a supportive attitude of being ripped off? - Even if you don't purchase this crap, as a fan of the genre, you are also part of the target consumer audience for a title like this.

MANGA ENTERTAINMENT GOES IN FOR THE KILL.

DVD Box Quote: "I've watched Akira a million times, and I have to say, this is a World Beater!" - Jonathan Clements.
 
F.F. said:
You speak as though you stand to make anything from these faceless companies and their "f*ck with the fans" attitude. You're in the same boat as the rest of us, I'd wager. Why such a supportive attitude of being ripped off? - Even if you don't purchase this crap, as a fan of the genre, you are also part of the target consumer audience for a title like this.

u'd rather we complained and let anime die in the western world?

sometimes you have to take what you get, to some, a loaf of bread is still food, no matter how stale it is.

you should be glad things like this get released at all as they do, 2 years ago u'd be lucky to get half a season for <£40 never mind £24
 
Ryo Chan said:
F.F. said:
You speak as though you stand to make anything from these faceless companies and their "f*ck with the fans" attitude. You're in the same boat as the rest of us, I'd wager. Why such a supportive attitude of being ripped off? - Even if you don't purchase this crap, as a fan of the genre, you are also part of the target consumer audience for a title like this.

u'd rather we complained and let anime die in the western world?

sometimes you have to take what you get, to some, a loaf of bread is still food, no matter how stale it is.

you should be glad things like this get released at all as they do, 2 years ago u'd be lucky to get half a season for <£40 never mind £24

Complaining won't kill anything in the "Western World". Hell, unless you haven't noticed, the "Western World" has been complaining since the fandom even began in the "Western World".

I'm sick of that phrase, now. Essentially, what I'm saying is, people have generally always been unsatisfied with the effort put into English dubbing and localization, for one. With the arrival of DVD, now companies have very little choice but to include the original Japanese dub and provide a faithful subtitle translation solely for it.

It's actually a major selling point for the fanbase, these days. Back when nobody knew **** in this country and relied on the Sci-Fi Channel for the latest straight-to-video OVA "YANKEE YEE-HAW!" dubbed porno gorefest playing between midnight and three in the morning, we accepted the stale bread and ate it duly.

We choked the stale bread down when companies like Streamline Pictures ruled the roost in the localization and translation world. Only now do we scream FUX U MACEK since we've all evolved and figured out that there was more to the world of Japanese animation than Akira and Ghost in the Shell.

Of course, people like Jonathan Clements will tell you otherwise. His very existance is pretty much worthless, these days. Back when he fed you crap about foreign films he'd watched on Import VHS in University, that was like the very word of GOD himself.

I'll never forget how hard I lol'ed at him interviewing Deunan's English VA on the Manga Entertainment Appleseed DVD, on a side-note.

Clements: "So, you know this guy MAMUROO OOSHEY is like a legend in Nipponland desu desu?"
VA: "Oh. I did not know that."
Clements: "Lol. Yeah! Your character is blah blah blah, and blah blah blah! I looked it up on IMDB.com!"
VA: "Oh. Really, now."
Clements: "This scene was truly epic! It heralds back to the classic manga blah blah robot blah blah humanity will never be free blah blah bird in cage, etc. Mamoru Oshii loves oiled-up titties and metal. How did you EVER prepare!?"
VA: "Oh. I read the script."
Clements: "This movie is truly a testament to you, you are truly legendary! You deliver your lines with such poise, such grace! PLEASE SLEEP WITH ME, PRINCESS!"
VA: "Oh. Thanks."
Clements: "I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT NIPPON. GUREITO, ETC. BOMB SOME DODONGOS, ETC, ETC."
VA: "What's this cartoon called again?"


These people don't give a f*ck about what they dub, and that's a fact. Japanese VA's might care about it, but that's because the Japanese fanbase are obsessives that send them birthday cards and clumps of pubic hair in the mail. That's life. America VA's generally do it for the cash, and the epic lulz as recorded on the Berserk English Out-Takes.

I'd rather people complained to the right people and made things a little easier. Any self-respecting fan worth their salt wouldn't pay for the crap on offer in this country. The only true options are relying on Import.

Whatever happens, we always get the bum deal. £20 for four half hour episodes of a television programme? - Pft. You tell me the American prices aren't more attractive. Websites like DiscountAnimeDVD.com offer commercial releases at prices that are half of the English equivalent.

For instance, I got the entire Azumanga Daioh from America for next-to-nothing in a DVD slimpack set. The entire series for around the price of what a single volume would cost in this country.

What's the better option, here? - Don't get me started on EBay, either. I'm pretty sure discussion of that particular market is forbidden on these forums.

However, I'll close simply with English fans get ripped off. - And to answer your question, two years ago we were "lucky" enough to be treated to an entire series for around £20. The piece of instantly forgettable trash known as Virus Buster Serge. - Manga Entertainment were behind that lost gem, too, I believe.

I'm not glad. Not glad in the slightest. You talk as though we should all bend over, get shafted and be thankful for the privilege.

No thanks.

Whatever way you want to look at it, we, the consumers of this particular vice, deserve better. Without us, none of these companies would make a single penny in the United Kingdom. Even places like Italy and France have a larger market for Japanese Animation and Manga Comic Books. Why not the United Kingdom, eh?
 
F.F. said:
You speak as though you stand to make anything from these faceless companies and their "f*ck with the fans" attitude. You're in the same boat as the rest of us, I'd wager. Why such a supportive attitude of being ripped off? - Even if you don't purchase this crap, as a fan of the genre, you are also part of the target consumer audience for a title like this.
If people turned down anime simply because it had a female character with a large chest there wouldn't be much anime left to go round! @_@;

I'm not ripped off if I don't buy it, and ultimately it's my choice as a consumer if I want to buy a show or not. If I'm suckered by a load of PR and advertising blurb its buying something crap it consider it my fault. I've got enough self-respect to not throw a tantrum whenever I pay a price close to the UK RRP either. Also you can't really comment about being ripped off for something if you just leeched it from the net for free...

F.F. said:
Whatever way you want to look at it, we, the consumers of this particular vice, deserve better. Without us, none of these companies would make a single penny in the United Kingdom. Even places like Italy and France have a larger market for Japanese Animation and Manga Comic Books. Why not the United Kingdom, eh?
We'd have a bigger market if people were willing to buy stuff over here other than paying just £1-2 per DVD when the companies hit a rough spot.

I'll admit Virus Buster Serge certainly ain't the best show around, but you just need to be more discerning, Read or Die was released by Manga at the same time for instance. You say Manga was behind it but they just released the thing, they had nothing to do with making it as far as I know. Whenever they've tried something different like Astro Boy or Tetsujin 28 no one bought it so it's not as though they've never tried. This is a Naruto thread here, hardly a mass of tits and blood - I'm sure you'd be all over the Witchblade thread if Manga were the ones releasing it. :roll:

If people are willing and happy to buy anime you consider crap then let them, no one's forcing you to join in. You've little to complain about if you're able to get better anime at cheaper prices elsewhere right? Lots of people/the majority of people here already do it too (including me) so you're preaching to the converted.
 
F.F. said:
These people don't give a f*ck about what they dub, and that's a fact. Japanese VA's might care about it, but that's because the Japanese fanbase are obsessives that send them birthday cards and clumps of pubic hair in the mail. That's life. America VA's generally do it for the cash, and the epic lulz as recorded on the Berserk English Out-Takes.
Actors, just like any other worker, do their job for a living. Despite your particular outburst there many of the actors on anime dubs are fans of the genre. I remember the Q&A session with Yuri Lowenthal a couple of years back at the London Expo where he enthused about many anime and cartoons.
F.F. said:
Whatever way you want to look at it, we, the consumers of this particular vice, deserve better. Without us, none of these companies would make a single penny in the United Kingdom. Even places like Italy and France have a larger market for Japanese Animation and Manga Comic Books. Why not the United Kingdom, eh?
Over here we have the unfortunate prejudice that anything animated is solely for kids. Where people accept that it is not for toddlers they assume the other extreme, believing that anime is animated porn. The same applies to comics in this country, which are rarely taken as a serious entertainment medium (serious entertainment is a bit of an oxymoron, I guess but I am sure people will understand what I mean :p). Still, I do wonder why you would decide to troll your views as you have. I don't find it particularly constructive to unilaterally slam everybody's opinions purely based upon your own. Everybody is different; the world would be a much duller place if it were not so.

If not for a domestic anime business I am sure there would be far fewer fans in the UK than there presently are, which isn't that big a number in the first instance.
 
Ushio said:
If people turned down anime simply because it had a female character with a large chest there wouldn't be much anime left to go round! @_@;

I'm not ripped off if I don't buy it, and ultimately it's my choice as a consumer if I want to buy a show or not. If I'm suckered by a load of PR and advertising blurb its buying something crap it consider it my fault. I've got enough self-respect to not throw a tantrum whenever I pay a price close to the UK RRP either. Also you can't really comment about being ripped off for something if you just leeched it from the net for free...

We'd have a bigger market if people were willing to buy stuff over here other than paying just £1-2 per DVD when the companies hit a rough spot.

I'll admit Virus Buster Serge certainly ain't the best show around, but you just need to be more discerning, Read or Die was released by Manga at the same time for instance. You say Manga was behind it but they just released the thing, they had nothing to do with making it as far as I know. Whenever they've tried something different like Astro Boy or Tetsujin 28 no one bought it so it's not as though they've never tried. This is a Naruto thread here, hardly a mass of tits and blood - I'm sure you'd be all over the Witchblade thread if Manga were the ones releasing it. :roll:

If people are willing and happy to buy anime you consider crap then let them, no one's forcing you to join in. You've little to complain about if you're able to get better anime at cheaper prices elsewhere right? Lots of people/the majority of people here already do it too (including me) so you're preaching to the converted.

I like tits and blood. That's all I have to say to this.

Gawyn said:
F.F. said:
These people don't give a f*ck about what they dub, and that's a fact. Japanese VA's might care about it, but that's because the Japanese fanbase are obsessives that send them birthday cards and clumps of pubic hair in the mail. That's life. America VA's generally do it for the cash, and the epic lulz as recorded on the Berserk English Out-Takes.
Actors, just like any other worker, do their job for a living. Despite your particular outburst there many of the actors on anime dubs are fans of the genre. I remember the Q&A session with Yuri Lowenthal a couple of years back at the London Expo where he enthused about many anime and cartoons.
F.F. said:
Whatever way you want to look at it, we, the consumers of this particular vice, deserve better. Without us, none of these companies would make a single penny in the United Kingdom. Even places like Italy and France have a larger market for Japanese Animation and Manga Comic Books. Why not the United Kingdom, eh?
Over here we have the unfortunate prejudice that anything animated is solely for kids. Where people accept that it is not for toddlers they assume the other extreme, believing that anime is animated porn. The same applies to comics in this country, which are rarely taken as a serious entertainment medium (serious entertainment is a bit of an oxymoron, I guess but I am sure people will understand what I mean :p). Still, I do wonder why you would decide to troll your views as you have. I don't find it particularly constructive to unilaterally slam everybody's opinions purely based upon your own. Everybody is different; the world would be a much duller place if it were not so.

If not for a domestic anime business I am sure there would be far fewer fans in the UK than there presently are, which isn't that big a number in the first instance.

Yuri Lowenthal? - Never heard of him. Isn't that the fag that's voicing Sasuke in the West. I'm sure the Naruto fanbase will back me up here and tell you that the dub, however "faithful guys honest lol" is an utter pile of dog **** that still didn't escape the hatchet in the West.

Take a look at this, babe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8OWzP65mQ4

HEY HO HEY HO GET ON TOP.

So, clearly. Naruto in the West is no different than, say...

... Power Rangers?


I also like to slam. Welcome to the Jam, etc.

It's nothing personal, but a good release of tension in the form of constant typing that becomes more wild, off-tangent and rambling as I go.

Don't think either of you raised a real honest question to me, there.
 
Watched this at minami con, before realising it was released as a Jump Fiesta ep, its ok but some of it just gets a little too much in the story. But getting to see Sasake and Naruto together again reminded me of how well they worked together and the comedy relationship they had together
 
F.F. said:
I like tits and blood. That's all I have to say to this.
Then what's with all your bitching about manga's 'lowbrow' tactics? Sort it out before going into 100mph rants...

Whatever dude, I'm done with this discussion.
 
i think that this a good starting point for new fans who want to watch a stan alone story to see if they would like it or not. cos that's face it the series is becoming complicated now
 
Ushio said:
F.F. said:
I like tits and blood. That's all I have to say to this.
Then what's with all your bitching about manga's 'lowbrow' tactics? Sort it out before going into 100mph rants...

Whatever dude, I'm done with this discussion.

if you find out, let the rest of us know
 
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