PS3 backwards compatability

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skikes

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ok so i got an 80gb ps3 afew weeks ago. i obviously hadnt researched enough and expected it to be backwards compatable... but the new 80gb ps3 arent BC :(

so obv im ober pissed off... ive searched and searched for software or something for a way around this and ive got nothing... any1 on here know if there is any software that can make it BC? i know its a long shot ¬_¬

its stupid but i was really looking forward to playing my old ps2 games as i havent had one in quite some time.

i suspect sony wont be releasing this software intill the ps2 is really and truely DEAD!
 
I think the backwards compatible PS3's used hardware rather than software PS2 simulation (ie: they had an extra chip) and that was one of the things they cut in order to bring the price down.

Only thing you can do is buy an old 60gb PS3...
 
To behonest i don't know if its hardware or software....i'll have to find that one out. but at the moment...even if you found out that its software....you'd have to track down the program to do it...and im yet to find someone who's brave enough to go into the ps3's software with a fine comb and extract the part that you need....or just copy and paste the whole software. tbh it all seems like too much work. give it a year and Sony will realise there's a demand for backwards compatability and start making another version...probably going to take your memory away in order to keep the PS3 as cheap as possible.
you'll probably find it costs sony £150 to make a ps3. so at £200+ their still racking it in on an annual scale.

tracking down and buying a 60Gb PS3 is abit hard. some people will sell theirs online simply because they know they'll get £300 easily. but many don't want to part with their beloved 60Gb....multi-port, 4 usb ports, silver rim at the bottom. i keep meaning to buy a light to stick on the back of my ps3....but tbh im not sure why it needs one...its like buying for the sake of buying.
 
UK PS3s used software BC when they had it. My JP PS3 has hardware BC and therefore works flawlessly with all games - the UK ones did not, and Sony eventually decided to stop bleeding money into perfecting their BC and confusing everyone.

Sony lose money with each PS3 sold so have been desperately trimming down the costs wherever possible, I guess.

Even though it is in software I don't know how you'd go about getting the BC on a newer PS3.

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its not that they dont know there is a demand for it i think its just a case of why wud they include BC when there is still stores selling ps2's and ps2 games... i really dont think they will do it until the ps2 is dead.
 
Don't know why i didn't remember about this till now but Rui is right Sony lose money on each PS3 sold, their money comes from everything else aside from the actual hardware unit. Nintendo are the only ones who actually make a profit on their hardware from what i know (£35)

As for the BC issue well it could be their view that a lot of people still have PS2s and will continue to use them to play PS2 games. Plus BC isn't all its cracked up to be there's a lot f issues with Microsofts BC, some of it is frankly unforgivable. Thinking about it though how many people played PSone games on their PS2? (Not meant to offend anyone just curious as to if anyone here used the BC on their PS2s)
 
Microsoft don't make any money because for every three Xboxes they make, they have to make another to replace one that dies. :p

BC is a relatively new idea for consoles (It's not like you could plug NES games into your SNES) and not one that really seems to be working very well. PS2's are so cheap now anyway it would probably be easier just to buy a second hand PS2 for £15.
 
Personally, i doubt they'll go ahead and re-introduce the BC PS3, as Rui and Tachi said, it costs them more to make it than sell it so in all, they do lose money with it. BC, both hardware and software would make it cost more so i think it was probably a case of money over demand, and no doubt they will keep to that. On the note of the PS2, you'll probably see it getting sold still but from what i know game wise, we are the most likely to have the PS2 die soon than anywhere else, Japan have a ton of games being released for it at the moment, as much as the PS3 and 360 here, and america have more releases as well. That would mean you'd need to import the games, and as far as i remember PS3 isn't BC with import games.

As for the 360's BC, its been fine for me, though if you think about it, Microsoft has done the next best thing and has set up an Xbox Classics section onto the marketplace, so you can download them instead now. Also, my xbox has been out since it was released, never been repaired either, so they aren't all that bad =p
 
The problem i had with mine was the complete lack of audio apart from sound effects, made me thankful that i could play my music over the top like :p

@Ayase there was a gadet released for the Mega Drive that allowed you to play Master System games on the console so i think that's one of the earlest examples of BC but i've got a feeling that it's not the first.

Actually Arbalest is right, its probably the next best thing to BC getting the old games via the Playstation Store or the Xbox Marketplace. Sure you'll have to pay for them again but this way you can get games you don't have
 
BC isnt a new idea at all... the sega mega drive could play master system games. its been around for almost as long as there have been modern consoles. so its not because of that... and it also has nothing to do with costs as they already have the software for it, its just as simple as putting that software on the PSN and charging for it, bingo! money made. they will do it.
 
skikes said:
BC isnt a new idea at all... the sega mega drive could play master system games. its been around for almost as long as there have been modern consoles. so its not because of that... and it also has nothing to do with costs as they already have the software for it, its just as simple as putting that software on the PSN and charging for it, bingo! money made. they will do it.
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Thats the thing though, they could always go add it to the PS3 again, but chances are with that making the PS3 cost more to build, and it wouldn't bring in that much more profit so they could easily start losing more money because of it. So it can easily be a money issue.
 
Ok then I'm wrong about everything (well I've never owned a Sega...) people can stop rubbing it in now. :roll:

Wouldn't they make more money not making the software available and making people pay to download the games again though (like they already are with some PS1 games)? That sounds more likely to me.
 
ayase said:
Ok then I'm wrong about everything (well I've never owned a Sega...) people can stop rubbing it in now. :roll:

Wouldn't they make more money not making the software available and making people pay to download the games again though (like they already are with some PS1 games)? That sounds more likely to me.
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I was just actually thinking of that possiblity, knowing Sony i wouldn't put it past them, after all there a buisness at the end of the day.
 
BlackWolf said:
ayase said:
Ok then I'm wrong about everything (well I've never owned a Sega...) people can stop rubbing it in now. :roll:

Wouldn't they make more money not making the software available and making people pay to download the games again though (like they already are with some PS1 games)? That sounds more likely to me.
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I was just actually thinking of that possiblity, knowing Sony i wouldn't put it past them, after all there a buisness at the end of the day.
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It surprises me somewhat that they haven't done so yet. I mean Microsoft have had the Xbox Originals section on the marketplace for the better part of a year now so you would've thought that with the whole rush to be leading in this Console Generation, Sony would've done something similar by now, yet they haven't. If i where them, i would've considered it long ago.
 
ayase said:
Ok then I'm wrong about everything (well I've never owned a Sega...) people can stop rubbing it in now. :roll:

Wouldn't they make more money not making the software available and making people pay to download the games again though (like they already are with some PS1 games)? That sounds more likely to me.
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well actually thats a good point they could go that way... thinking about it that seems far more likely.

and arbalest i dont think u read my message... it wudnt cost them more to build it as they wudnt have to build it with BC hardware becus they have software now that does the same thing so they cud put it as a download on the PLAYSTATION NETWORK without costing anything to them but charge people for it.
 
Ah fair enough, the only question then is why haven't they done so by now, i'd presume there was either something else their planning, or somethings stopping them. To be honest, i'd introduce downloading the games, would earn them a bundle more.
 
i didnt get a PS3 purley because they dropped the BC been thinking of getting an old one know a few places i can get them for around the same as one of the new ones if not a bit less but the age of it i am paranoid of it breaking espec the blue ray drive which i hear had problems early on
 
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