Neferpitou
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MANGA UK: BLEACH Release To Continue Past Series 5
MANGA UK have confirmed that they will be releasing more of the BLEACH Anime past the fifth series in future.
Source: Manga Twitter
Just Passing Through said:I don't think Manga have mentioned D. Gray Man. It's Funimation that have been dithering on the 2nd half, the intimation being that the Japanese are asking too much for the licence.
Just Passing Through said:All that means is that if Funimation eventually release D.Gray Man second half, then Manga will follow suit, as Funi will dub it. It all boils down to what Funi does.
The intimation in the Manga statement is that if there is no dub, they may just stream it online... If that happens, that will be one-upping the US for a change...
Jayme said:The popularity difference between D.GM and Bleach is an ocean.
I don't know the numbers, but the licensing costs are bound to be hell of a lot more for a JUMP adaptation than they are for the much older Daphne. The difference in "good" sales probably differs a lot between MVM and Manga also. I wouldn't be surprised if D.GM actually sold more than Daphne and that still wasn't good enough justification for them to do anything to follow it up and they absolutely will not do a sub-only release, because it simply makes sense to wait for FUNi.Neferpitou said:There no way to know how popular both series are in the UK as we don't know how well either sell currently on DVD. Who would have though that Daphne in the Brilliant Blue would be good seller for MVM in the UK?
IIRC, it's actually Ghost in the Shell :lol:ColdCobra said:When I was walking in WHSmiths I saw that NEO magazine and on the from cover it had Bleach with "celebrate the UK's no.1 anime!" or something like that.
Now I would have thought Naruto was more popular, but either way Bleach sales seem to be good enough that NEO thinks it's the UK's No.1, so I'm far from shocked to find out Manga are continuing with Bleach past Series 5.
Jayme said:I don't know the numbers, but the licensing costs are bound to be hell of a lot more for a JUMP adaptation than they are for the much older Daphne. The difference in "good" sales probably differs a lot between MVM and Manga also. I wouldn't be surprised if D.GM actually sold more than Daphne and that still wasn't good enough justification for them to do anything to follow it up and they absolutely will not do a sub-only release, because it simply makes sense to wait for FUNi.Neferpitou said:There no way to know how popular both series are in the UK as we don't know how well either sell currently on DVD. Who would have though that Daphne in the Brilliant Blue would be good seller for MVM in the UK?
Also, just take a quick look at the internet to see the big popularity difference between Bleach and D.GM. It's huuuuuuuuge - people watch shows like Bleach and Naruto without even knowing what anime is.
It will only be "proved" if the experiment is successful - and since this one is getting a dub anyway it is a little moot (although they will still have the sales figures from the sub release to pore over, not that we're likely to see them).Neferpitou said:But not having a DUB is no longer essential for UK release as BEEZ proved with licensing Durarara! SUB only and with MANGA UK suggesting they may consider a similar approach.
I wouldn't call it successful in the UK though. It might have done well by MVM's standards, but MVM aren't the biggest around.Neferpitou said:I never mentioned comparing MANGA to MVM title in term sales. It just shows with titles like Daphne you never can tell what will be successful in the UK.
One Piece, yeah, I suppose gets a better reception online and generally as well, but that doesn't mean the fanbase of One Piece is anything like Naruto and Bleach's. One Piece fans certainly are avid, but One Piece is (from what I've noticed) only watched by people who like anime. People who have seen a decent amount and consider themselves fans of the medium. With Naruto, apart from the anime fans, it's recongised beyond that. Naruto has shown for years on UK TV and even Bleach had a short run on Anime Central. A while back, if you got into Naruto whilst [DB] was subbing, you would have watched Bleach as well. They just went hand in hand, and CR and stuff has helped keep them together.Neferpitou said:Internet popularity does not always equal good retail sales. One Piece gets a much better reception online than either Bleach or Naruto who often get slated a lot more. But One Piece still trails way behind either of them in actual retail sales in the west.
When did YYH get released in the UK? Or Sailor Moon for that matter? I'm curious, but I would have loved to have snapped YYH up if it did. Both are them are popular due to tv showings, YYH got shown on [AS] and SM was a sensation of sorts when it first came over. There are them fans, fans of certain titles from tv shows and probably make up a larger proportion of anime buying and make things hits (Naruto, again). Did YYH ever get shown here? I don't recall anything like that. I would still make the argument that although there might be some differences, most anime fans are internet-savvy enough and form up a consensus with the rest of the English-speaking world. You don't often know where the fans are, Australia, India, America or even the UK. It's just one blur of popularity. When something gets released and does well in the US, why wouldn't it do well over here? America is a just sample group for us and our companies. LS didn't get released here (well, yet) because of how it didn't do as expected in the US (mind, that might have had something to do with the lavish box sets). Bebop was popular stateside, was popular here. DBZ was popular stateside, was popular here, Naruto was... If the title is big enough, it probably will sell well over here. It probably is as simple as that.Neferpitou said:Also the internet popularity you talking about is general USA consensus as that where the majority these fans are from as that the biggest English speaking anime market. Titles which were hits in the USA like Yu Yu Hakusho and Sailormoon have both flopped badly when released in the UK. A title not going to sell well just because it popular online or in the USA, it's not simply as that.
Oh, hmm... Good to know.Neferpitou said:D'Gray man looks to be a self licensed show taking into account there no Funimation logo on the cover which there would if Sub licensed from Funimation.
Yep, I agree. Still, again, the popularity thing comes in.Neferpitou said:Another thing which could affect sales is that Bleach has already had 9 separate DVD release (not including box series box set of course). Each DVD release would sell less than the previous volume as you simply not going to buy volume 2 if you haven't brought volume 1 and so on. D.Gray Man is only 4 part DVD release so it would suffer less from that problem.
Bleach is getting a lot of criticism, but so does Naruto and that does fantastically. I think your really confusing quality with popularity.Neferpitou said:Taking other things in account like Bleach having more filler than D.Gray Man, D.Gray Man is a newer release so has more of Buzz around it and Bleach currently getting a lot more criticism of late could all affect latest DVD volumes sales. Its not that simply to say which is the more profitable show for MANGA UK.