Global Warming
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Global Warming, No one knows what is happening we can only predict what we think. The earth isnt meant to have a stable climate, We cannot prevent climate change the only thing we can prevent is more CO2 being released into the atmosphere.
Earth will get hotter/colder/wetter/drier this is natural. We may slow or speed up the process but we cannot PREVENT it, key word. Change is inevitable we will just have to adapt.
Global Warming, No one knows what is happening we can only predict what we think. The earth isnt meant to have a stable climate, We cannot prevent climate change the only thing we can prevent is more CO2 being released into the atmosphere.
Earth will get hotter/colder/wetter/drier this is natural. We may slow or speed up the process but we cannot PREVENT it, key word. Change is inevitable we will just have to adapt.
Nyu said:
It won't be close to making any drastic environment changes during my lifetime, so really I don't have to, nor should I give a flying fart about it
I figure we'll all live under the sea eventually...
*breaks into xylophone medley*
Under the sea, da-da-da-da-doo :lol:
Who really knows what will happen with the world, if it gets hotter it means I will be happy as I will get to ride my motorbikes more.
If it gets colder then we'll actually get snow at christmas.
The way I look at it, what happens happens, we'll all adapt to it much the way we have in the past
If it gets colder then we'll actually get snow at christmas.
The way I look at it, what happens happens, we'll all adapt to it much the way we have in the past
If global warming wants to be stopped,every single person will have to change.And that will never happen.Its all well and good promoting greener things,but there will always be people who dont care/just wont do anything for whatever reason.
My personal opinion? Sure i care,i mean hell i live on earth just like everyone else.So when you hear its being destroyed it is a concern.Though on the other hand,i do believe i myself wont change the way things are going because as i said before if i do something there will always be someone else who isn't.
My personal opinion? Sure i care,i mean hell i live on earth just like everyone else.So when you hear its being destroyed it is a concern.Though on the other hand,i do believe i myself wont change the way things are going because as i said before if i do something there will always be someone else who isn't.
Well, yup, we can't prevent it (well, not easily...) - but we can moderate the change, which seems like a good idea.Nyu said:
Haha, y'know people'll keep saying that til something drastic actually does happen during their lifetimes :wink:Hyaku said:
Um, well the people who spend all their time studying it probably have a good idea. Also, if the temperature of the Earth increases britain will temporarily get colder, ironically enough...McIcy said:
A fair enough way of looking at things, but doesn't that make you one of the people who "just won't do anything?". Plus, it's not really like every single person will have to change...TRASHBAT said:
My views... the climate of the earth is certianly changing, and the balance of evidence seems to indicate that people have played a significant factor in this. I figure I can't really do much about it, but it doesn't hurt to try.
The climate of earth changes every year, that is a given. It's over the last 300 years that the amount of chemicals in the air that has increased, hence the green house affect.
People are doing thier bit though, even though the press says different take it with a pinch of salt. Councils and governments all over the world are improving the heating/lighting systems in our homes and with new insulation technology less heat is required to heat our homes and keep them that way for longer.
Driving your prius, will that make the grass grow greener? no, but you'll get a little bit of self pride when your driving it.
People are doing thier bit though, even though the press says different take it with a pinch of salt. Councils and governments all over the world are improving the heating/lighting systems in our homes and with new insulation technology less heat is required to heat our homes and keep them that way for longer.
Driving your prius, will that make the grass grow greener? no, but you'll get a little bit of self pride when your driving it.
Ramadahl said:
Your right,it does.Though i do what i can,when i can.But it would be a case of just doing it because thats what i do,rather then thinking 'oh wait i better do this...' If that makes sense.
And concerning about every person having to change.Well sure maybe not every single person,but there will never be enough people that will change to achieve anything.
So yeah,i believe also there isn't much i can do but it is also silly to ignore it.
Outlawstar
Thousand Master
Unfortunatly I know a bit too much about global warming for my own liking.Lets just say that if we dont buck up,hard times are ahead.
Nyu said:
Ah, I always sigh a little when people say this. "It's only a theory - it's not as if it's been proven."
Before anything else, do you know how hard it is to construct a proper scientific theory? It's not just saying "I think that...". That would be a hypothesis. To be a proper theory it has to have a great deal of experimental evidence backing it up, preferably from several recognized independant sources. Needless to say, the theory behind global warming is a theory in this sense.
So it's not proven? Here's news for you - it never, ever will be. It's simply not possible to prove something as "simple" as cause and effect over a real chaotic system (which the Earth certainly is). How about some more theories that will never be proven? Evolution. Gravity. I could go on. Ultimately (if you take this to the logical conclusion), nothing can ever be proven.
So what's the solution? Up to you. Stick your head in the sand if you want to. Personally, I'd rather try to come to conclusions using my own common sense and the available evidence. But hey, to each their own.
Ramadahl said:
I think you need to come down off your power trip a little there buddy, I think your confusing me with someone that is sticking thier fingers in thier ears and yelling "LALALALALA i'm not listening" I know what theory is and i know you do.
I know climate change is happening, anyone that says and different is wearing rose coloured glasses.You could also list the probable causes from here to lands end and you would still be at square one.
I disagreed with what Outlawstar was saying because no one knows what will happen due to the earths climate changing, We can't even predict what the weather will be like in 10 weeks time let alone 10 years. What we can do is look back over GMT graphs and CO2 emmision graphs over the last couple of hundred years and take a look at whats happening. What we have to take into account though is the amount of time we as human beings have been on this earth is nothing but a grain of sand in the desert of time. We can also look at what happened during the last ice age and again build theories on what might happen in round 2.
My solution? Well obviously anything we bring in within the next 3 generations still wont provide any great benifit, we can't just magically suck up all the gasses in the atmosphere and replace them with hydrogen.
So what I would recomend is more sustainable forms of construction, more green technologies being implimented into new builds and retrofitted into old. Stop every recycling process apart from that of compost and Aluminium. One other extreme is to again devlop more efficient nuclear technology, from my point of view this is the only sensible way to move forward with the planets energy consumption. Fossil fuels may or may not run out within the next 100 years but i think it would be better to make the switch sooner rather than later.
I agree with Nyu on pretty much everything there.
A theory is an explanation that fits the facts and you should always question it. That is the way it gets improved/ corrected, never accept it simply because somebody says it is true.
There are so many factors in global warming that it is hard to pinpoint 1 in particular. Although we do create alot CO2 etc.. it is only a small percentage compared to what the earth and its creatures produce naturally. However our contribution, however small, is the only one we have the power to control.
There have been massive climate changes in the past. There is the ice age of course but also there have been other major climate changes. As temperatures change in the atmosphere, the convection current cells around the earth change which dictate the positions on the earth that the different types of climate reside. Deserts have been created and removed. It has caused the loss of whole races of people in the past. The climate change now is nothing unusual.
I also recommend embracing nuclear fuel. Nuclear power stations are very safe and produce little to no pollution that affects the atmosphere. True there is the nuclear waste but I judge the lower pollution level from replacing fossil fuels and the hugh amounts of power produced are worth it.
A theory is an explanation that fits the facts and you should always question it. That is the way it gets improved/ corrected, never accept it simply because somebody says it is true.
There are so many factors in global warming that it is hard to pinpoint 1 in particular. Although we do create alot CO2 etc.. it is only a small percentage compared to what the earth and its creatures produce naturally. However our contribution, however small, is the only one we have the power to control.
There have been massive climate changes in the past. There is the ice age of course but also there have been other major climate changes. As temperatures change in the atmosphere, the convection current cells around the earth change which dictate the positions on the earth that the different types of climate reside. Deserts have been created and removed. It has caused the loss of whole races of people in the past. The climate change now is nothing unusual.
I also recommend embracing nuclear fuel. Nuclear power stations are very safe and produce little to no pollution that affects the atmosphere. True there is the nuclear waste but I judge the lower pollution level from replacing fossil fuels and the hugh amounts of power produced are worth it.
Outlawstar
Thousand Master
Fossil fuels "MAY run out in a hundred years"
15 to 20 is a more likely assumption.
This is mostly due to newly emerging econmical superpowers such as china and india feeling they need as much fossil fuels as possible to compete with the likes of america and europe.Thus almost doubling our consunption.
15 to 20 is a more likely assumption.
This is mostly due to newly emerging econmical superpowers such as china and india feeling they need as much fossil fuels as possible to compete with the likes of america and europe.Thus almost doubling our consunption.
There is still alot of oil left its just that enough has been removed to significantly lower the pressure in the oil wells. Ie its not pushing itself up anymore. The fact that the oil is so deep underground means it is very difficult and very costly to get at. Oil wells have been closed even though there is still oil there.
Hmm, sorry, guess I've had too many arguments with people who dismissed global warming in its entirety simply because it hadn't been proven.Nyu said:
Slightly different comparing the weather to the global climate. While it's impossible to say what the weather will be like in 10 years time it's quite possible to create a general picture of what will happen if the temperature increases by 3C, for example.Nyu said:
Um, not actually too relevant, surprisingly. It's quite possible to perform dramatic alterations in smaller periods of time. Interesting fact: - people have managed to measurably slow the rotation of the Earth by storing up water in reservoirs - shows the scale of the effect we can have.Nyu said:
Sounds like some solid ideas.Nyu said:
Um, I think I implied that? "...come to conclusions using my own common sense and the available evidence".Asdrubael said:
True, but that small percentage is several billion tons, IIRC.Asdrubael said:
Hmm, I could've sworn I read an article saying that this climate change seemed incredibly rapid compared to previous ones.Asdrubael said: