Do we need Bluray Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood in the UK?

Just Passing Through

Just Passing Through

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I'm giving the second set of DVDs the once over now, and like many of Madman's most recent conversions, they are now native PAL. The first volume was NTSC-PAL, but this gets rid of the ghosting, the judder and all the associated issues with standards conversion.

It also means that the DVDs run 4% faster to cater for PAL's 25 frames per second.

So here's the thing, NTSC is a 525 line format, and the DVDs would be 480 lines to fill that.

FMA:B is a hi-def show, but a hi-def show animated at 540 lines. sharper than NTSC, so that the Blu-rays will look better.

But PAL is a 625 line format. 540 into 625 does go. So we may be getting the full broadcast resolution on the now native PAL DVDs.

I'm probably wrong though, and someone more technically minded will put me right.
 
fabricatedlunatic said:
Superior video codec and much higher bitrate would give BD the edge. Plus they've been upscaled to 1080p.

The DVDs should look great, though.
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They look sweet! Watched episode 14 last night, with all the action sequences as King Bradley goes after Greed and the Chimera in the sewers of Dublith, and the fight sequences are smooooth!
 
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Just Passing Through said:
So here's the thing, NTSC is a 525 line format, and the DVDs would be 480 lines to fill that.

FMA:B is a hi-def show, but a hi-def show animated at 540 lines. sharper than NTSC, so that the Blu-rays will look better.
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No, NTSC is 525 lines total but only 480 lines of actual active video. Same with PAL, 625 total with 576 for video. The rest is stuff like teletext, timecodes etc.. 480 or 576 from a DVD is full NTSC/PAL resolution.

Why would they animate in 540 lines? Remember 1080 is still 1080 lines no matter if its i or p. 1080i isn't 540 lines.
 
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Project-2501 said:
No, NTSC is 525 lines total but only 480 lines of actual active video. Same with PAL, 625 total with 576 for video. The rest is stuff like teletext, timecodes etc.. 480 or 576 from a DVD is full NTSC/PAL resolution.

Why would they animate in 540 lines? Remember 1080 is still 1080 lines no matter if its i or p. 1080i isn't 540 lines.
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Each frame from a 1080i picture draws 540 lines though.
You can do "fake" 1080i like FMA:B by drwaing the 540p image to every other line, then moving up of down by a pixel each frame.
 
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Reaper gI said:
Each frame from a 1080i picture draws 540 lines though.
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So? And each frame of a PAL signal draws 288 lines.

LCD/Plasma TVs cannot display interlaced pictures, they have to deinterlace it and show it as progressive, thus 1080i50 becomes 1080p25.

Reaper gI said:
You can do "fake" 1080i like FMA:B by drwaing the 540p image to every other line, then moving up of down by a pixel each frame.
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That would look beyond crap.

Looking at the images from that link I'd have to say his logic is flawed. You can downscale the BD to PAL or NTSC and they also look 'nearly pristine' to use his words. Looking at the BD grabs I'd say it is native 1080, there is too much lost when he downsampled to 540 lines. The detail on the floor gives it away. What has happened however is everything has been softened.
 
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Project-2501 said:
Why would they animate in 540 lines?
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Because it costs a lot less to pay people to draw stuff half the size.

As for the OP, yes, mainly for the reasons cited by FabLun. imo better color depth is usually the most striking aspect of watching well encoded BD anime, you can even see this on non-HD displays.
 
I was being a little tongue in cheek when I asked the question. Watching the DVDs I can still see the minor aliasing and odd compression artefact/ macroblocking that you would find on even the best encoded DVD on the planet.

Simple bitrate and space issues will always cause problems as storing image on DVD (and Blu-ray) is a lossy process.

But FMA: B on DVD looks as good as the best DVDs now.
 
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