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<blockquote data-quote="Vashdaman" data-source="post: 536076" data-attributes="member: 246">Yaas replies!Yeah I pretty much agree with everything everyone here has said. Particularly ayase. But it is an interesting point this thing about the word pride. Personally, I'd use it and say I do feel proud of being British on occasion, even though it isn't something I actually achieved.&nbsp; It's definitely irrational for all the reasons ayase lined out, but despite that it seems pretty natural at times, and when kept in check by a healthy amount of rational it seems pretty harmless too. Like, was my heart and blood pumping during those world cup matches, most definitely, but I don't really give a toss about football and I'm not going punch anyone because of it. But that was probably some form of pride I felt, wasn't it, and it damn sure was 100% vicarious, but it's just a consequence of that connection I have to here and it was hearty fun. Were you pumped for those world cup games, ayase? Nothing wrong at all if you weren't, in fact you'd be a more stolid chap than me for it, but I'm just curious if you did feel pumped but wouldn't describe that as pride? I think it's just a semantics thing to be honest. It's just that feeling of particular joy when someone you feel close to for whatever reason achieves something, tribalism yeah, but people just call that pride.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vashdaman, post: 536076, member: 246"] Yaas replies! Yeah I pretty much agree with everything everyone here has said. Particularly ayase. But it is an interesting point this thing about the word pride. Personally, I'd use it and say I do feel proud of being British on occasion, even though it isn't something I actually achieved. It's definitely irrational for all the reasons ayase lined out, but despite that it seems pretty natural at times, and when kept in check by a healthy amount of rational it seems pretty harmless too. Like, was my heart and blood pumping during those world cup matches, most definitely, but I don't really give a toss about football and I'm not going punch anyone because of it. But that was probably some form of pride I felt, wasn't it, and it damn sure was 100% vicarious, but it's just a consequence of that connection I have to here and it was hearty fun. Were you pumped for those world cup games, ayase? Nothing wrong at all if you weren't, in fact you'd be a more stolid chap than me for it, but I'm just curious if you did feel pumped but wouldn't describe that as pride? I think it's just a semantics thing to be honest. It's just that feeling of particular joy when someone you feel close to for whatever reason achieves something, tribalism yeah, but people just call that pride. [/QUOTE]

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