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Senran Kagura OT | 5th Anniversary Game Revealed!

Discussion in 'Gaming' started by NormanicGrav, Aug 6, 2014.

  1. NormanicGrav

    NormanicGrav Hai Hai Grav desu Moderator

    I figured this thread should become the sole thread for Senran Kagura related information, thus I will rename the thread as 'Senran Kagura'!

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    Original Post - EU announcement for Shinovi Versus and Bon Appetit, digital only titles for Vita:

    After months of waiting for confirmation on whether Europe will be receiving the Ninja franchise on Vita, Marvelous AQL Europe have confirmed they will be releasing Senran Kagura: Shinovi Versus and Senran Kagura: Bon Appetit! for the Playstation Vita this October.



    However, while Bon Appetit! was never given a physical release Shinovi Versus will be digital only. In the states XSEED provided a limited physical release (given Burst was digital only on 3DS over there) while Japan has a physical version in both standard and The Best edition (titles that sell very well).

    If you don't have a Vita but own a 3DS, you can get Senran Kagura: Burst (compilation of Senran Kagura: Skirting Shadows and a new story mode) in both physical and digital format.

    Credit goes to XOMG Play (Emo185)
     
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  2. NormanicGrav

    NormanicGrav Hai Hai Grav desu Moderator

    Re: Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus & Bon Appetit heading to EU

    Bit more info:
     
  3. serpantino

    serpantino Adventurer

    Re: Senran Kagura Vita games heading to UK/EU/AUS - Digital

    I am really hating this digital only rubbish for Europe. I love my Vita but Sony is doing the best to kill it off and their digital prices are a total joke. As for the Publishers saying they'll strive to reach a point where Physical is part, they won't get so many sales when it's digital only so they'll think the demand is low and then they won't release future titles physically.

    There's at least 6 games I haven't picked up for this reason and I may import them when they drop below the £15 limit for customs or if they're a couple of pounds more from a UK distributor. Not only that but I keep running out of space on my 32gb card and I hate not being able to fit all the stuff I've bought on it because re-downloading games you already own is such a disorganised mess. I have to write down every digital game (PSP & PSone mainly) that I buy so that I can keep track without having to scan through my entire download list.
     
  4. NormanicGrav

    NormanicGrav Hai Hai Grav desu Moderator

    Re: Senran Kagura Vita games heading to UK/EU/AUS - Digital

    I haven't bought a Vita yet (really want one) but my main criticism is the prices. It's too much for the console with low amount of games and the whole memory card thing is a joke (especially restricting access to multiple accounts).

    May I ask what the 6 games are? I'm assuming Conception 2, Hyperdimension Neptunia Re:Birth, Muramasa Rebirth and Soul Sacrifice Delta are four of them (all of which are victims of digital only releases for EU)? As far as I know the only title that went from digital download only to physical release was Freedom Wars.
     
  5. serpantino

    serpantino Adventurer

    Re: Senran Kagura Vita games heading to UK/EU/AUS - Digital

    Most of those, though I own Muramasa Rebirth already (PS Plus game). There were also a couple of the Atelier games and Sword Art Online (which to be fair, is digital only in the US too) and a few others but to be honest I was just estimating as I generally pay little attention to them when I find out they're digital only here. Vita is my primary console I purchase for at the moment and I tend to panic buy any physical Japanese games that make it here just in case they get rare and I miss out.

    There are quite a few good games on the Vita but it's hardly the asian power house that the PSP was. If you do ever get one, make a US account as there's no easy way to switch accounts on Vita and I foolishly invested too much in my European one to warrant changing. The US store has a much bigger selection and much better prices, especially in sales.

    If you primarily love JRPGS though and are on a small budget I'd definitely go for a PSP if you don't have one, there's a lot of great rpgs that haven't been released digitally and the Vita's options are fairly limited and digital only is killing it, especially when companies like Atlus are charging £35 a pop. The original PSPs were the best (1000 series) as the later models all had cutbacks somewhere to make them cheaper and some are just awful.
     
  6. NormanicGrav

    NormanicGrav Hai Hai Grav desu Moderator

    Re: Senran Kagura Vita games heading to UK/EU/AUS - Digital

    Interesting, one time I did want to get a PSP specifically for Birth by Sleep (PSP exclusive until 2.5 HD Remix came along) and Dissidia Final Fantasies but I stayed with the DS (and 360) back then. Heck the Japanese are still selling PSP games (well now they're stopping) and if I recall they are also region free so that's cool.

    As for the US account idea, that's pretty (*any word aside from Interesting, I'm saying that a lot now*) since it's not a bad idea. Hmm.. though I wouldn't mind getting 2 Memory cards as long as they're reasonably priced (and given I already have 3 Vita games from PS+ including Muramasa Rebirth). I'll take your word and consider that idea (I'm going to end up with US versions eventually so it's considerable).

    As for JRPGs, I like them but the main problem is dedicating tons of time towards them which is why I prefer Action RPGs (like Kingdom Hearts) since it's faster paced. I do have Neptunia and Tales of Symphonia to go through (the second which I barely played but I liked the concept).
     
  7. serpantino

    serpantino Adventurer

    Re: Senran Kagura Vita games heading to UK/EU/AUS - Digital

    There's a lot more RPG variety on PSP, for instance 2 excellent star ocean games and a Tactics Ogre game. Vita is mostly dungeon crawlers. There are a lot of great non-Japanese games on vita though.

    One of the really naff ideas from Sony I must mention is that memory card swapping is a pain. You have to turn off the console and it practically resets itself and takes a couple of minutes to set up again every time! Unlike the PS 3 you can't have multiple accounts tied to it either which is why I can't just shift between US and UK.
     
  8. ilmaestro

    ilmaestro State Alchemist

    Re: Senran Kagura Vita games heading to UK/EU/AUS - Digital

    Why do people not like digital releases? The main benefit of something like the Vita for me is that I can download the games and not have to mess about with boxes or have no space issues taking multiple games with me when I'm going on a trip or something.
     
  9. NormanicGrav

    NormanicGrav Hai Hai Grav desu Moderator

    Re: Senran Kagura Vita games heading to UK/EU/AUS - Digital

    To me it's a collector's thing. I like to have the game on the shelf and look at it everyday.
     
  10. ilmaestro

    ilmaestro State Alchemist

    Re: Senran Kagura Vita games heading to UK/EU/AUS - Digital

    Do you really do that though? ^^; I understand it for some number of high quality releases, but for the more run-of-the-mill stuff, do you even notice it's there after a while?
     
  11. NormanicGrav

    NormanicGrav Hai Hai Grav desu Moderator

    Re: Senran Kagura Vita games heading to UK/EU/AUS - Digital

    Yep, remember I used to collect video games before going into anime (not much but quite a lot of them were 360).
     
  12. serpantino

    serpantino Adventurer

    Re: Senran Kagura Vita games heading to UK/EU/AUS - Digital

    Digital games are overpriced, especially Sony's European territories, they also don't feel as safe as physical as companies always class it as a rental to get round the event that they might take it offline or otherwise make it unavailable one day. Vita cards are also expensive, hard to swap out and undersized. Physical gives peace of mind, though in the case of the vita I've never been able to find read/write lifecycle statistics for the games or memory cards (pretty sure the games are read only so should have an extremely long lifecycle).
     
  13. ilmaestro

    ilmaestro State Alchemist

    Re: Senran Kagura Vita games heading to UK/EU/AUS - Digital

    I mean, sure, I've also been buying video games for ~25 years (much longer than I have anime), but this doesn't mean that I would... I dunno, complain about Steam sales just because the stuff I buy from them doesn't come in a plastic case with the game's title visible down the spine.

    Maybe what I'm subconsciously just trying to do is advise people that they would be better off not advertising the fact that they have bought Senran Kagura games at any time in the past. :D

    This is certainly an argument you can make, but it's not really anything inherent to digital games any more than it is to any physical releases which are also overpriced.

    edit: I think I would sum up my position as "I can't wait for the day when I can download sandwiches if I'm pushed for time getting lunch, and I don't want any of you Luddites getting in the way. :p
     
  14. serpantino

    serpantino Adventurer

    Re: Senran Kagura Vita games heading to UK/EU/AUS - Digital

    *warning, wall of text incoming*

    It's not just about having a physical copy, the market is competitive with different retailers so games can regularly be had below their RRP. With digital you only have one price from one company and you have no choice but to pay the price or hope for a sale, it's a terrible practice and it'll ruin gaming in the future if it becomes the norm, and they are pushing for it all the time.

    The regular price for digital downloads on Sony's European store seems to be £35. When you consider it's self published so the publisher gets a much bigger cut than they do retail, that means they could afford to sell it cheaper if they wanted as they're saving big already on the lack of production and manufacturing costs and not selling at the trade cost of distribution to retailers. On average they get 30% of the game's RRP if I remember rightly, Sony takes approx 20-30% from digital sales. I'd never spend more than £15 on a digital game personally and they could still make a profit from that. I don't think any more than £18 for a new digital release is fair.

    Another thing to take into account is that the excuse often given for the price of digital games is they don't want to undercut the physical retailers, however when there's no physical release then that excuse doesn't work, so what's the justification for the pricing other than greed?


    Sony's storefront for playstation consoles is also rubbish. There's no way to sort your purchases by format or even sort it into games (meaning you have demos you've tried and avatars etc all bundled in.) It's literally just one huge download list of everything you have ever downloaded on the store. I have to keep a paper backup of all the digital games I've purchased just so I can find them quicker.

    Games in steam sales are fine and steam, by virtue of being so big and popular, is a pretty safe platform for digital, there's also still that competitive market as plenty of sites can sell keys for steam legally, or on another pc platform such as Uplay. I also only ever buy games for steam, in steam sales. I do buy new steamworks games but I always buy physical releases for another issue... internet speed. A digital download isn't a convenience when it takes 8+ hours to download the game.

    Sorry for the long post, I hope it answers all your questions about the reasons of people who want physical releases.

    P.S I've never bought a Senran Kagura game! I just tend to snap up any asian games I can that are released physically on the vita. I collect as much as play and I like buying games that become rare or are rare. (I even own a mint copy of Sid Meier's Sim Health on pc complete with all the advert/feedback cards etc and that's a terrible game!)
     
  15. ilmaestro

    ilmaestro State Alchemist

    Re: Senran Kagura Vita games heading to UK/EU/AUS - Digital

    Haha, fair point. :)
     
  16. Joshawott

    Joshawott Monsieur Monster AUKN Staff

    Re: Senran Kagura Vita games heading to UK/EU/AUS - Digital

    I missed this while on holiday? Dayum, I need to buy both. I absolutely love Senran Kagura (I think the review I wrote for it is probably one of the highest rated on the internet? xD). I was also really tempted to get a Japanese copy of Senran Kagura 2, but I didn't have the spare money.

    Due to the physical release of Burst in Europe, I was hoping that we might see more physical releases - especially on the Vita, which has stupidly overpriced memory cards. If the memory cards weren't so expensive, I wouldn't have a problem.
     
  17. NormanicGrav

    NormanicGrav Hai Hai Grav desu Moderator

    Re: Senran Kagura Vita games heading to UK/EU/AUS - Digital

    Bit more info on why Shinovi Versus is digital only for Europe:
     
  18. NormanicGrav

    NormanicGrav Hai Hai Grav desu Moderator

    Re: Senran Kagura Thread - Shinovi Versus EU censored

    I renamed the thread for anything Senran Kagura news related.

    The European version of Shinovi Versus has been censored by Marvelous Europe:
    The US version (aka XSEED) kept the subtitles. Both versions did remove the age of the characters but in all honestly you can probably guess how old they are by what school year they're in.
     
  19. Joshawott

    Joshawott Monsieur Monster AUKN Staff

    Re: Senran Kagura Thread - Shinovi Versus EU censored

    I want to know what the removed subtitles were now...

    EDIT: Just looked it up. It was just generic reactions to the girls being touched. Not too bad.
     
  20. Cel

    Cel Dandy Guy, in Space

    Re: Senran Kagura Thread - Shinovi Versus EU censored

    It seems they didn't even bother sending it to the rating boards with the subtitles intact in the first place though. They removed them beforehand incase the rating board *might* have had a problem (and let's be honest, out of all the ones to have issues, it would most likely have only been Germany) - and in that case, why not have a censored version for Germany only? (like Dead Rising, Left 4 Dead, Call of Duty, many other games).

    Censorship (that is only announced after the game releases) alongside a digital only release is very disappointing. Glad I opted to just import the Physical Edition.