Rate the last anime you watched out of 10

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Great Teacher
The Melancholy Of Haruhi Suzumiya-it's a series I've always been ho hum about. I've watched it 3 times and I do get a laugh out of Kyon's snarkiness and Haruhi's just plain weirdness and the endless 8 thing didn't bother me at all but overall...........! The movie was pretty damn good, though.
 

Lordhippos

Vampire Ninja
Vivy

I finished this recently and should have put it into the previous post, but forgot and only remembered later on :)

A solid romp through a span of 100 years with an idol android who just wants to make everyone happy with her singing, and her eccentric AI bear/cube companion.

This was made by studio wit so the quality is pretty good, and the episode count is only 12, but it's a complete story beginning to end, which is fairly rare these days. The OP is pretty good too.


Maybe 8 on a good day, but my gut feeling says 7.5 is fair.
7.5/10
 

Dai

Hunter
Future Diary
This wasn't what I expected at all. Survival game stories are a pretty crowded genre that has been handled in a bunch of different ways, but the one common thread in all the ones I'd seen previously was that they were mostly straight dramas with some social satire working in the background. Future Diary is more of a black comedy, but it swings back and forth between serious and ludicrous so wildly that it becomes impossible to tell which parts are meant to be taken seriously and which are being played for laughs. I'm not sure if even the people making the show knew in some places. It also messes with the viewer by trying to make its cast of serial killers increasingly sympathetic over time, while simultaneously making the protagonist limp from useless to irredeemably despicable. The story ultimately has no moral centre, resulting in a baffling tone where we're supposed to wish for the happiness of ruthless mass murderers, even as they rack up ever higher body counts of innocent bystanders.

One thing I'll say in the show's favour is that it's never boring. It's always throwing new challenges at the characters, or adding new twists to the formula. Unfortunately, many of these scenarios are poorly plotted, resulting in countless times where characters don't realise that they have a decisive advantage and end up losing for stupid reasons. It's an idiotic, blood-soaked, over-the-top, self-contradictory, repugnant, and yet still somehow entertaining mess.

5/10
 

Lordhippos

Vampire Ninja
Higehiro

After reading the rating by @Dai I had to give it a shot, and I only skim read the review prior to watching as I like to go in reasonably blindly.

This was a far from perfect anime, but I agree, at it's core it was an interesting tale, and it kept me entertained well enough. I think it started stronger than it ended however. Early on I'd have said 7/10, later on more like 5/10, so on balance I averaged the two out.

Some spoilers/issues I had with it below:

Clearly Sayu's approach to housing herself is wrong, she knows it's wrong, and the people who also know it's wrong take advantage of her situation. I thought that Yohshida generally restrained himself well considering some of the advances that Sayu made on him, and deep down I think his feelings for her wound up being more than just guardianship, but he knew that it was the wrong time to pursue such things, as Sayu needed stability.

I think Sayu genuinely needed professional help, as much as a warm home and someone who wont' take advantage of her are welcome vs the continued degradation she put herself through, you don't casually prostitute yourself out without that leaving some scars. On top of that she was still traumatised by the way her mother treated her and by the death of her only friend (has she really been through all these years at school without making any friends?).

Despite that I think Sayu sounded and acted like a nice girl most of the time, and I too found myself caring for her and wanting her situation to improve.

Her mother was a total nutjob, I can see why she'd want to run away from home, but at the same time it seems like the whole thing could have been solved by renting her an apartment away from home, kind of like Toradora with Taiga, surely they could have found a better way to distance Sayu from the toxic mother she had given their obvious financial power. The brother was meant to care for her but sent her off with enough cash to last a couple of weeks and a smile and a wave.

In the end I found it absolutely bonkers that this mother, who accused her of killing her best friend, and treating her like garbage, could not even find it in her cold, iced-over heart, to ask forgiveness. Instead Sayu was the one that apologised to her, even though she had nothing to apologise for, other than running away from bad parenting with good justification.


6/10
 

Dai

Hunter

In the end I found it absolutely bonkers that this mother, who accused her of killing her best friend, and treating her like garbage, could not even find it in her cold, iced-over heart, to ask forgiveness. Instead Sayu was the one that apologised to her, even though she had nothing to apologise for, other than running away from bad parenting with good justification.
Yeah, the mother in Higehiro was definitely the worst-written character. She was such a one-dimensional monster, and we were never given any insight into her beyond her being a terrible mother. I recall seeing some comments on Crunchyroll about how this show veers hard into old Confucian ideas of rigid family hierarchies. It's something we surprisingly don't see a lot of in anime, perhaps because so many protagonists live on their own, having suffered Protagonist Parental Death Syndrome or needing enough autonomy to build their harem without interference. Even when we do see family homes in anime, they tend to either go for more modern (westernised?) family dynamics, or just shove the parent behind a newspaper for the whole series. It's rare we see an anime where someone tries to convince a parent to do a better job, and it's here where we run into this hierarchical brick wall, especially since Higehiro is desperately trying to be a legitimate drama. So for a western viewer we end up with this jarring combination of culture clash and poor writing that makes the final couple of episodes hard to process.
 

Lordhippos

Vampire Ninja
or needing enough autonomy to build their harem without interference

This is the one! Can't have those pesky parents stopping the harem forming! 🤣

Yeah it would be nice if they went into the reasons for the evil mother more to be honest, sure sometimes parents are just bad people, and sometimes they are deluded (it was kind of mentioned that the mother blamed Sayu for being born and not being enough to stop the father running off with other women or something to that effect).

I really find it easier to emphasise with characters if I can kind of get their motives, even if I don't like what they are doing or agree with it, as long as the motive is realistic and the characters react to things in a believable fashion, then I'm OK with that.
 

Dai

Hunter
Yeah it would be nice if they went into the reasons for the evil mother more to be honest, sure sometimes parents are just bad people, and sometimes they are deluded (it was kind of mentioned that the mother blamed Sayu for being born and not being enough to stop the father running off with other women or something to that effect).

I really find it easier to emphasise with characters if I can kind of get their motives, even if I don't like what they are doing or agree with it, as long as the motive is realistic and the characters react to things in a believable fashion, then I'm OK with that.
The other thing they lose by having her be such a hollow shell is any real angle of attack when arguing with her. The penultimate episode is meant to be a battle of words, but without any facets of the mother's personality or shared history with Sayu to engage with, there's no choice but to resort to hitting the table repeatedly and begging her to just please, please stop being a terrible parent.
 

Geriatric hedgehog

Vampire Ninja
Agreeing with you guys on Higehiro. Despite the plot requiring quite a suspension of disbelief as the case for such anime, I felt it started quite well with the characters generally likeable. Just lost its way in the latter half. The mother an obvious point, but okay let's just say she is evil and irredeemable or whatever, what I can't get over is, cultural hierarchies notwithstanding, the brother who seemed a kind & loving soul, would have at least some level of autonomy, even if on the sly, to at least help out his sister to move out into safe lodgings and support her (as you said Toradora style). It could have been better but in the end was just okay.
 

Lordhippos

Vampire Ninja
I think it was just contrivances to fit the plot, a bit like that co-worker woman who clearly never had a chance, she was just there to add some drama, or the rapist guy who you're suddenly meant to forgive for manipulating her mere moments before.

With better writing and art this could have been a better story, but I didn't think it was the worst, just a shame they couldn't pull the ideas together to make something better ultimately, but I had fairly low expectations going on so it was fine :)
 

zrdb

Great Teacher
Josee-The Tiger And The Fish-this was quite a surprise to me as I had no idea what to expect. It turned out to be very good, granted it's basically a romance but it had enough original twists and turns to make it very involving and the characters are very relatable. Overall I give it 8 out of 10 points.
 
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Dai

Hunter
Mr Tonegawa: Middle Management Blues
It took me a while to get into this Kaiji spin-off because it takes the most evil characters from the main series and plays them for laughs. This is an odd case where I think the spin-off works better if you either haven't seen the show it's based on, or haven't watched it recently. It's been several years since I watched Kaiji, and I think that distance allowed me to finally enjoy this show on its own terms. And that's good because, viewed in isolation, Tonegawa is a solid workplace comedy, and a unique one in the anime sphere since it focuses on a main character in late middle age. It features some hilariously bizarre problems for Tonegawa to overcome, and it's all set to the tune of the greatest narrator in entertainment history, not to mention its mesmerising barrage of grade-A Engrish.


7/10
 

Neil.T

Titan
its mesmerising barrage of grade-A Engrish.
Thread!

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Dai

Hunter
Words Bubble Up Like Soda Pop
This movie has such a weak first act that I almost dropped it around the 30-minute mark. It has a bold, appealing art style and great animation, but the characters made an irritating first impression and the situations felt hollow. A lot of that flashy animation feels wasted. Fortunately it improves somewhat as it goes along, with the characters becoming a bit more sympathetic, though it takes until halfway before the plot gets out of first gear. By the end it reaches a fairly satisfying, if completely by-the-numbers climax.

Perhaps its biggest flaw is baked into its premise, by having smartphones play such a large role in the lives of the two main characters. Of course that's par for the course for modern teenagers, but it becomes tedious for a movie when people spend so much time staring at their phones instead of interacting directly.

5/10
 

Asaid16

Completely Average High School Student
Sword Art Online (first season), I thought it was alright, maybe because I went into it with no expectations due to all the hate.

Nothing special but I've definitely seen a lot worse shows.

First arc was better than the second, but the second was alright as well apart from the villain.

I was looking through myanimelist most popular list and this was the most popular show I hadn't seen.
 

Professor Irony

CYBER FUNKER
Moderator
Vlad Love

Ostensibly billed as a slapstick romcom with a queer theme, Mamoru Oshii's unexpected return to episodic anime quickly becomes something much more esoteric; it's less interested in developing its protagonists' relationship than it is in providing an excuse for Oshii to tell you about stuff that he likes or was influenced by, in ways that will likely alienate the unprepared or casual viewer.

While it does flirt with the sweetish, slightly bland story on its surface for a while (the main plot is based on a visual novel from 2013 that Oshii was involved with), the show mostly stops pursuing that beyond the half-way point, and instead skews closer to Oshii's earlier Gozensosama Banbanzai, with its emphasis on the sort of capricious, whimsical approach to narrative I'd associate more with avant garde theatre. It never breaks with the sitcom format altogether, but within that, the characters will frequently lie, skip over seemingly relevant detail or just flat out ignore the story because they've found something more interesting to talk about instead. Most notably mid-century arthouse cinema and cult manga, but also Castlevania and Brad Pitt, because hey why not.

This doesn't always make for the most endearing viewing experience. Despite often visually referencing classic '80s comedy anime, the show tends to set up jokes that go nowhere, apparently teasing a return to Oshii's much loved stint on Urusei Yatsura, but never actually making good on that. It's tempting to say the series is like a 12 episode experiment in how far you can gradually push something away from a standard premise and still get away with it, but I don't think it has as much blatant disregard for the audience as the likes of Pop Team Epic. When Vlad Love is talking about something the creators obviously care about, it does so with genuine enthusiasm and sincerity. It also seems unafraid to poke fun at Oshii's own career tropes, with gratuitous live-action inserts, characters rambling on about military hardware in intense detail and a cameo appearance for what I'm sure is just Oshii's own dog.

With its awkward comedy and conscious refusal to deliver what it apparently promised, Vlad Love is a show that I don't think many people will enjoy and, honestly, I don't blame anyone who doesn't. It does, however, seem to set up the most personal dialogue between a director and their audience that I've seen in anime since The Wind Rises, and I think that is quite special, even if I'm not quite sure how we got here.
 
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Dai

Hunter
the characters will frequently lie, skip over seemingly relevant detail or just flat out ignore the story because they've found something more interesting to talk about instead. Most notably mid-century arthouse cinema and cult manga, but also Castlevania and Brad Pitt, because hey why not.
Sounds like Oshii went full Tarantino in the most self-indulgent way. His post-UY work has always been full of rambling monologues, but it's usually on-topic rambling. Well, maybe this is on-topic if we accept that the plot of the show was never the point in the first place, but I don't know if that's something to encourage. I lost interest in this show after the weak pilot, but I might give it another go based on this, out of curiosity more than any expectation that I'll like it.
 

Professor Irony

CYBER FUNKER
Moderator
The series doesn't really show its hand until the second half, so I think you could probably just skim over the first few episodes until something catches your eye, if you wanted to go back to it. It's just a shame CR's player doesn't have a 1.5x speed option the way Netflix's does.
 

Dai

Hunter
Combatants Will Be Dispatched
I almost dropped this one after the first episode. I was expecting a spy comedy, and while the main character endlessly tells us he's a spy on a mission, he does very little towards that end. Instead he spends the whole series in a stock isekai fantasy land, being sent on standard RPG quests, with the only twist being that he has to commit evil acts in order to earn weapons and equipment from his employer. Since he's scum and surrounded by beautiful women in skimpy clothing, it won't take you two seconds to guess what form these evil acts take.

All that said, the show is pretty funny if you're not bothered by most of the humour being based around sexual harrassment. I can't give it a particularly high mark though because it is so relentlessly trashy, derivative, and predictable.

6/10
 
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