I do think it’s done for laughs especially as Shinji’s friends are there
To be fair I'm definitely watching with an eye to try and pick things up for discussion. I dont normally try to over analyse a show as I watch but with having seen it before and this thread thought I'd try am be analytical as I watch.
... I think it might be a western thing with getting in touch with the feminine side, none of the stuff i've watched gives me the feeling that male characters are out of touch with their feminine side at some point, it all just looks like it's a joke
For sure. It's there for comic relief before the show gets down to the main action but with an element of the show being about growing up and self discovery I still feel it's an angle with a bit of merit.I do think it’s done for laughs especially as Shinji’s friends are there
That's true. But it is interesting how differently you can read the same situation differently because times have changed. It's probably important to be able to view both as a product of it's time but also to say you know what this isn't really ok.You got that king of thing a lot in 'romance' scenes from the '90s. I'd give a pazz to Shinji as it was only a kiss and he is a developing confused teenager (and fate teases his hormones a lot on this show).
Asuka really comes off even more strongly like an abrasive teen in the new dub. Every insult is very sharp.
True though the old dub which I was watching almost leaves it a big ambiguous as she then claims she was kidding and was really asleep
A lot to unpack here. First off the slightly rapey undertones here are uncomfortable to watch. Didnt really process it a decade and a half ago but the way kaji is basically forcing himself on Misato and Shinji almost kissing Asuka while she sleeps are pretty gross. Kaji esp as he just stands there and says you said no but i assume you mean yes.
They're all pretty screwed up people, in an incredibly screwed up situation. I don't really feel like there's anything wrong with showing them doing screwed up things, especially not given how they're a product of Anno's mental state at the time.@WMD - I think that's really important. You're definitely allowed to alter your opinions based on new information and better understanding of things. You can certainly admire something like NGE as a work of art and something that pushed boundaries, but it doesn't mean you have to agree with everything it presents us with.
If anything, it's probably testament to just how much times and attitudes have changed when your reaction to something is so different now to how it was a decade or so ago.